Am I spending enough time working 9-5 on my PhD or will it require more?

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The discussion revolves around the time commitment required for a PhD in particle physics, particularly whether a 9-5 work schedule is sufficient or if more intensive hours are necessary as the program progresses. It encompasses personal experiences and observations regarding work habits, stress levels, and the variability of PhD workloads.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes they are treating their PhD like a 9-5 job and questions if this is adequate for future demands.
  • Another participant shares that in their experience, those who maintained a consistent 9-5 schedule tended to finish faster and with less stress compared to those with irregular hours.
  • Some participants highlight that extreme hours can be common, especially when working with expensive equipment or approaching deadlines, indicating that the workload can vary significantly.
  • A participant recounts their own experience of working long hours, emphasizing that their PhD was not a 9-5 job and included periods of intense work.
  • Humor is introduced regarding the importance of personal hygiene amidst demanding schedules, with a participant playfully critiquing the lack of specificity in expressing shower frequency.
  • Another participant reflects on their own experience of intense work during their master's program, expressing a desire to avoid similar situations in the future.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of experiences regarding time commitment, with some advocating for a structured 9-5 approach while others emphasize the necessity of longer hours in certain contexts. There is no consensus on a definitive answer to the original question about time commitment.

Contextual Notes

Participants' experiences are highly individual and may depend on specific research topics, institutional expectations, and personal work styles. The discussion reflects a variety of assumptions about workload and stress management that are not universally applicable.

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I'm doing a particle physics-based PhD at a british university and have returned a few weeks earlier than my official start date to get familiarised with what I'll be doing. I've been treating it as a 9-5 job, and doing little bits of reading etc. on nights and at the weekend.

I've heard all sorts about PhD's being a gruelling battle but right now it seems very manageable, it's not stressing me out at all. Am I devoting enough time to this or can I expect to have to kick it up a gear at some point?
 
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You'll have ups and downs.

One of my personal observations (in Canada) was that the people who tended to treat the PhD like a 9-5 job consistently, every day, tended to finish faster and with less stress than those who had more sporatic work schedules.

Another personal observation is that people like to talk about the worst cases they experience. So you'll talk to a graduate student who says she puts in 16 hours a day, 7 days per week, and what she could mean is that she's finishing her thesis and the deadline is two weeks away and she doesn't want to pay for another semester because her funding has run out.

There are of course, people who actually do put in insane hours on a regular basis some even to the point where personal hygene starts to suffer. And that's not good for anyone.
 
It's not only people trying to finish up who put in long hours. My topic often required working 16 hour days, 7 days a week, working at a lab or observatory for months at a time. When your instrument costs thousands of dollars an hour to run, you don't take any time off when it can be running. And if you're the one in charge of it, you don't get a break. And then you better get that data reduced fast or you're going to get scooped and it wouldn't have been worth the effort you just put in. My PhD took very long hours for many years; it was never a 9-5 job. Some days I took off just for mental health reasons, others I worked straight through. But I always found time to shower. :)
 
eri said:
But I always found time to shower. :)

This is garbage. As a physicist, you should know to state units! Please give your shower rate in showers per appropriate unit of time;)
 
Choppy said:
There are of course, people who actually do put in insane hours on a regular basis some even to the point where personal hygene starts to suffer. And that's not good for anyone.

lol, this was me towards the sharp end of my masters year, when the **** really hit the fan. don't want to go there again.
 

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