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The discussion revolves around a probability problem involving a player receiving a certain amount of money based on the expected number of blue balls drawn in a series of trials. The subject area includes probability theory and binomial distributions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the calculation of expected values and question the rounding of monetary amounts. There is discussion about the most likely amount a player can receive versus the average, with some participants suggesting methods to determine the mode of the distribution.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning assumptions about rounding and the relationship between mean and mode in a binomial distribution. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of binomial distribution functions and the nature of probability calculations.

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There are constraints regarding the rounding of winnings to multiples of $0.50, and participants are considering how this affects their calculations and interpretations of the most likely outcomes.

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Homework Statement
A bag contains 4 reds, 5 blue and 6 green balls (balls are identical except their colour). Ten balls are drawn, one at a time and being replaced before taking next ball. A player receives $0.5 for every blue ball drawn.
(i) Find the probability he gets more than $2.5
(ii) If 20 players are randomly chosen, find the expected number of players who will receive more than $2.5
(iii) Find the amount a player is most likely to receive
Relevant Equations
Binomial Distribution
I can answer parts (i) and (ii).

For part (iii), this is what I did:
Expected number of blue balls drawn out of 10 trials = n.p = 10 x 1/3 = 10/3

The amount a player is most likely to receive = 10/3 x $0.5 = $1.67

But the answer key is $1.5, not really far from my answer but I wonder is there anything wrong with my working?

Thanks
 
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songoku said:
The amount a player is most likely to receive = 10/3 x $0.5 = $1.67

But the answer key is $1.5, not really far from my answer but I wonder is there anything wrong with my working?
It's impossible to receive $1.67. Winnings are always multiples of $0.50.
 
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PeroK said:
It's impossible to receive $1.67. Winnings are always multiples of $0.50.
I see, so $1.67 is rounded down to $1.5

If the calculated value is $1.8, then I round it to $2. What about $1.75? Does it mean I can either round it to $1.5 or $2 (both are correct)?

Thanks
 
songoku said:
I see, so $1.67 is rounded down to $1.5
No. You are looking for the most likely, not the average.
 
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PeroK said:
No. You are looking for the most likely, not the average.
My idea is to compute P(X = 0) until P(X = 10) and see which has the highest probability. Is there a way which does not involve brute force?

Thanks
 
songoku said:
My idea is to compute P(X = 0) until P(X = 10) and see which has the highest probability. Is there a way which does not involve brute force?

Thanks
Excel has a binomial distribution function, for example. That should be easy to use.

Note that the binomial distribution has a peak around the mean, so that narrows down the possibilities for the most likely.
 
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Thank you very much PeroK
 
songoku said:
I see, so $1.67 is rounded down to $1.5

If the calculated value is $1.8, then I round it to $2. What about $1.75? Does it mean I can either round it to $1.5 or $2 (both are correct)?

Thanks
It sounds like you expect the distribution to be symmetric around a mean of $1.75. For a binomial distribution, that is not true except for a probability of 1/2. In general, you should calculate the probabilities at the possible values. For this example, $1.67 is so much closer to $1.5 than to $2 that $1.5 is a good guess. You also seem to be assuming that the average (mean) is directly related to the most likely (mode). For some distributions, they can be very different.
 
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The number that maximizes ## f(k) ## is called the mode. If there is a unique local maximum then you can find it as follows: Let ## r(k) = f(k)/f(k-1) ##. Let ## m = \max\{k \,|\, r(k) \geq 1\} ##. Note that if ## r(m) = 1 ## then ## m-1 ## and ## m ## are equally like.

For a binomial distribution ## r(k) = \frac{n-k+1}{k} \frac{p}{1-p} ##. Please verify that ## m = \lfloor np+p\rfloor ##
 

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