Amplify Position Sensor Circuit

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design and implementation of a sensor circuit for monitoring the performance of a mountain bike suspension damper. Participants explore the use of a sliding potentiometer as a sensor, the challenges of voltage resolution with a data logger, and the potential need for signal amplification.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Cameron describes the use of a sliding potentiometer and expresses concerns about the low voltage output being insufficient for his data logger's resolution.
  • BoB questions the validity of the <10uA current rating for the potentiometer, suggesting it seems unusually low.
  • Some participants express doubt about the manufacturer's specifications, noting conflicting information regarding current ratings, including a mention of 20mA.
  • Cameron shares a translation of the spec sheet indicating a recommended current of 10uA and a potential conversion to a 4-20mA signal, raising further questions about the specifications.
  • One participant suggests applying 5 volts across the potentiometer and calculates the power dissipation, cautioning that the voltage rating does not guarantee safe operation from the variable terminal to an end.
  • Another participant notes that the 10uA rating likely refers to the wiper current rating of the film resistance element used in the potentiometer.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of the potentiometer's specifications, with multiple competing views regarding the current rating and its implications for circuit design.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the clarity of the manufacturer's specifications, and participants express uncertainty about the correct interpretation of the ratings provided in the spec sheet.

CameronRose
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Hi everyone,

I'm working on a college project this year about mountain bike suspension damping. By trade I'm a mechanical engineer however, I'm required to construct a simple sensor circuit to monitor the performance of the damper I am making. Forgive me if my wording or logic is not quite correct on certain aspects.

I picked up a sliding potentiometer to use as a sensor since it was astronomically cheaper than inductive or other resistive options. The system has to be entirely stand-alone since, it will be tested in real world environments. I decided to connect the potentiometer in series with a standard 1.5V AA battery and a 150K resistor since the current rating on the pot is <10uA. As far as observation with a multimeter goes, this is functional. However, the stand-alone voltage data logger I own can only record in increments of 0.01V, this is an issue since the potentiometer voltage ranges between 0 and 0.05V which would only allow me ever to (optimistically) record 5 different values. Not nearly a good enough resolution to demonstrate damping trends.

I believe the solution lies in amplifying the voltage signal from the sensor however, I haven't a clue where to start when it comes to choosing an amplifier and I am even less familiar with how I would go about wiring one to do the required task.

Specifications
Potentiometer - 5K Ohms, <10uA, 200mm travel
Data Logger - 0-32V in increments of 0.01V, USB interface, 400Hz recording speed

Any input would be greatly appreciated!

Cameron.
 
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Are you sure the current rating is <10uA? That sounds kind of small. What is the part number on that?

BoB
 
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I'm beginning to doubt the validity of the manufacturer's spec sheet, it was also remarked by someone on another forum that it seemed like an unusually low rating. There is mention of 20mA further down but it's unclear what this represents.
 
CameronRose said:
I'm beginning to doubt the validity of the manufacturer's spec sheet, it was also remarked by someone on another forum that it seemed like an unusually low rating. There is mention of 20mA further down but it's unclear what this represents.

doesn't help when all the spec's are in Chinese ( even after switching to English)
 
I suppose that's the price I'm paying for ordering a cheap generic one from China :H

I had to download Google Translate onto my phone and then use the inbuilt OCR software to translate the spec sheet.

Translations of the relevant parts are as follows.

"Current Recommended (uA) - 10"

Then further down (as best the app can manage):

"It can also be converted to a 4 ~ 20mA DC current signal"

Haven't got any data acquisition gismos available so I decided to chance it and hook it up to a 9V battery and 30K resistor, running with a steady voltage across it so far so I think I'll assume that the 10uA is related to something else.
 
Power = Volts2 / Resistance
I'd put 5 volts across it. That's 52/5000 = 1/200th of a watt.
As rbelli hinted, If it's too flimsy to handle that it's useless.

However - because it can take 5 volts end to end does NOT mean it can take 5 volts from its variable terminal to an end.
Identify the terminals using your multimeter.

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Probably you'll be okay powering it from your logger's 5 volt supply.
 
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Since the sensor is a film resistance element, that 10uA is almost certainly the wiper current rating.
 

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