Amplitude in a simple pendulum - angle or distance?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of amplitude in a simple pendulum, specifically whether it is measured as an angle or a distance. Participants explore the relationship between amplitude and the equation x=Acos(ωt), while also considering the implications of different units of measurement.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants question how amplitude is defined in the context of a simple pendulum, considering both angular and linear measurements. There is discussion about the relationship between amplitude and the maximum velocity of the pendulum, as well as the use of conservation of energy as a method for solving related problems.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing different approaches and interpretations regarding the definition of amplitude. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between amplitude and the pendulum's length and release angle, but no consensus has been reached on the best method to calculate amplitude or maximum velocity.

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Participants are working under the assumption of simple harmonic motion (SHM) and are considering various equations and methods to relate angular displacement to linear amplitude. There is mention of differing results from various approaches, indicating potential confusion or lack of clarity in the definitions being used.

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Is amplitude in a simple pendulum measured as an angle, theta, or as a distance? If it is an angle, is it in radians or degrees. Also, what is the equation?

How does amplitude relate to x=Acos(ωt)?
 
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shmurr said:
Is amplitude in a simple pendulum measured as an angle, theta, or as a distance? If it is an angle, is it in radians or degrees. Also, what is the equation?

How does amplitude relate to x=Acos(ωt)?
Hello shmurr. Welcome to PF !

For a true pendulum, the amplitude can be expressed as an angle and/or a distance.

Every angle can be expressed in degrees, also in radians.

Regarding your equation, [itex]\displaystyle \ x=A\cos(\omega t)\,,\[/itex] it's customary for A (the amplitude) to be a distance, although it can just as well be an angle. The quantity, ω is usually radians per second, and t is in seconds, as a time, making ωt a quantity in radians.

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The amplitude, A, in your equation, will always be in the same units as is the variable, x. Since the variable , x, usually represents a distance, the amplitude, A, (usually) also represents a distance.
 
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I asked regarding this question:

Length of pendulum = 0.760 meters
Mass of bob = 0.365 kg
Released at an angle = 12 degrees
Assume SHM

What is the maximum velocity?

My Approach:

maximum v = ωA
= [(g/L)^0.5]*A

What value of A would I put in?
 
shmurr said:
I asked regarding this question:

Length of pendulum = 0.760 meters
Mass of bob = 0.365 kg
Released at an angle = 12 degrees
Assume SHM

What is the maximum velocity?

My Approach:

maximum v = ωA
= [(g/L)^0.5]*A

What value of A would I put in?
From the length of the pendulum and from the release angle (assuming zero velocity at release) you need to calculate the amplitude, A .
 
Ok that makes sense, Thanks so much SammyS... :)
 
You could solve this using conservation of energy. Try it.
 
Well funny thing is that I tried 3 different ways and each got me a different answer :/

Is Amplitude = Length * (θ^2) a valid equation?

It seems like a random one the teacher threw at us without any derivation. So I'm not exactly sure how to convert θ of amplitude into distance. Any tips?

Also, just confirming that the amplitude is the horizontal distance from the maximum points of the bob, right?

And thanks voko, I personally like to use conservation of energy as it makes a lot more sense. And the answer made sense.
 
The amplitude of an oscillation is the maximum displacement from equilibrium. Sketch the equilibrium position and the maximum displacement position. You will get a certain right triangle. Find the displacement from this.
 
Thank you voko, finally got two formulae to give the same answer. Used energy and amplitude method.
 

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