Analysing Non-Inverting Op-Amp Circuit: Questions & Answers

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The discussion revolves around analyzing a non-inverting operational amplifier (op-amp) circuit for a lab report. Participants explore the circuit's components, specifically the role of resistors, feedback mechanisms, and the implications of circuit design on voltage relationships.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the circuit diagram, particularly regarding the notation for the parallel resistors (15kΩ//1.2kΩ) and the overall configuration of the circuit.
  • Another participant clarifies that the circuit is complete as shown and identifies the 10k resistor as the feedback resistor, suggesting that the source connects to input S1 and output is taken at Out1.
  • A different participant questions whether the original poster built different versions of the circuit, implying that practical experimentation might clarify the circuit's behavior.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of starting with the gain equation and using Kirchhoff's laws to analyze the circuit, suggesting a methodical approach to understanding the voltage inputs and outputs.
  • Another participant notes that the circuit operates with negative feedback, indicating that the voltages at the + and - inputs are equal, and poses a question about determining the output voltage based on the input voltage S1.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic structure of the circuit and the role of the feedback resistor. However, there is uncertainty regarding the implications of the additional resistors and how to effectively analyze the circuit, indicating that multiple views and approaches remain in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the effects of the additional resistors and the specifics of connecting the voltage source and feedback, highlighting potential gaps in understanding the circuit's operation.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and practitioners working with operational amplifier circuits, particularly those seeking clarification on circuit analysis and feedback mechanisms.

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I'm supposed to be analysing this circuit to go with my lab report. However I haven't seen a circuit like this. First off I'm not sure what the symbol is on the top left resistor (15kΩ//1.2kΩ) means.

Secondly I'm used to doing inverting op amps and they generally don't have many/ any resistors attached to the side that doesn't have the voltage source. I'm curcious if and what effect the other resistors will have. I'm assuming there's some kind of feedback there, however I'm not sure how to connect the voltage source and the feedback.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. The circuit diagram is below.

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The circuit is complete as shown. You don't add any more resistors. The 10k resistor is the feedback resistor. You connect your source to input S1 and take output at Out1.

15k // 1.2k is a pair of resistors in parallel, and is a method of providing a resistance of a special intermediate value when it's needed, that's all.
 
Evales said:
I'm supposed to be analysing this circuit to go with my lab report. However I haven't seen a circuit like this. First off I'm not sure what the symbol is on the top left resistor (15kΩ//1.2kΩ) means.

Well, what did you actually do in your lab (I assume that you did the experiment if you are writing a report on it)? Did you maybe build 2 different versions of this circuit - one with a 15kΩ resistor and one with a 1.2kΩ resister?

Secondly I'm used to doing inverting op amps and they generally don't have many/ any resistors attached to the side that doesn't have the voltage source. I'm curcious if and what effect the other resistors will have. I'm assuming there's some kind of feedback there, however I'm not sure how to connect the voltage source and the feedback.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. The circuit diagram is below.

R0f0e.png

As always (when dealing with op amps), start with the Gain equation:

V_{\text{out}}=A(V_{+} - V_{-})

Use Kirchoff's circuit laws to express V_{+} and V_{-} in terms of the resistors in your circuits, the output potential (V_{ \text{out} }) ,and the input potential (S_{1}?).
 
Thanks to both of you for responding. The lab was just connecting a board with jumpers and using an oscilloscope to evaluate the gain and the phase shift.

So from what I've gathered:

The odd symbols for the resistors was two resistors in parallel. And thanks especially for the tip to start with A(V--V+), our lecturers and tutors just run ahead and do each circuit in the quickest way possible, so I'm left trying to think of the best way to look at a problem. I'm not great with analysis when there's heaps of different ways of doing it. I get overloaded everytime I look at a problem trying to think of the best way to do it haha.

Thanks again!
 
This is an amplifier with negative feedback so you can assume that V at the + input equals V at the - input.
If you know the voltage S1 can you see how to work out the output voltage to make V+ =V- ?.
Small tip ...The 10k from S1 to ground is not important in the calculation, do you know why?
 

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