Analytically Finding Limits: (x-3)^0.5 -1 / x-4

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The discussion revolves around finding the limit analytically for the expression lim (x->4) [(x-3)^0.5 - 1]/[x-4]. The subject area pertains to limits in calculus, specifically dealing with indeterminate forms and algebraic manipulation.

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  • Participants explore algebraic manipulation of the limit expression, including rationalizing the numerator. Some question the validity of their simplifications and whether terms can be canceled. Others suggest using approximations for square roots near 1.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning their approaches. Some have offered insights into simplifying the expression further, while others express confusion about the cancellation of terms and the resulting limit.

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There is an emphasis on solving the problem without using L'Hôpital's rule, as the original poster indicates a preference for methods learned prior to calculus concepts involving derivatives.

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Homework Statement


Find the limit analytically:
lim (x->4) [(x-3)^0.5 -1]/[x-4]

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


lim (x->4) [(x-3)^0.5 -1]/[x-4]
= lim (x->4) ([(x-3)^0.5 -1]/[x-4]) * [((x-3)^0.5 +1)/((x-3)^0.5 +1)]
= lim (x->4) [x - 3 -1]/[(x-4)(x-3)^0.5 +1)]
= [4 - 3 -1]/[(4-4)((4-3)^0.5 +1)]
= 0/ (1)
= 0

However my book says it's equal to 0.5
I don't know how to get to that answer.

Please don't say, "use L'hopital's rule" because this problem is assuming that you didn't learn derivatives, integrals, etc to solve the problem.
 
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Have you done approximations of square root for numbers close to 1?

sqrt(1+d) approx. = 1 + d/2 for magnitude of d much less than 1
 
icecubebeast said:

Homework Statement


Find the limit analytically:
lim (x->4) [(x-3)^0.5 -1]/[x-4]

Homework Equations


053121f788c3a57247b2124097512799.png

The Attempt at a Solution


lim (x->4) [(x-3)^0.5 -1]/[x-4]
= lim (x->4) ([(x-3)^0.5 -1]/[x-4]) * [((x-3)^0.5 +1)/((x-3)^0.5 +1)]
= lim (x->4) [x - 3 -1]/[(x-4)(x-3)^0.5 +1)]
= [4 - 3 -1]/[(4-4)((4-3)^0.5 +1)]
= 0/ (1)
= 0

However my book says it's equal to 0.5
I don't know how to get to that answer.

Please don't say, "use L'hopital's rule" because this problem is assuming that you didn't learn derivatives, integrals, etc to solve the problem.

The denominator doesn't come out to 1. It's also 0, but the x-3-1 in the numerator can cancel the x-4 in the denominator, right? THEN let x->4.
 
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Dick said:
The denominator doesn't come out to 1. It's also 0, but the x-3-1 in the numerator can cancel the x-4 in the denominator, right? THEN let x->4.
Thank you so much! I didn't notice that those terms cancel.
 
icecubebeast said:

Homework Statement


Find the limit analytically:
lim (x->4) [(x-3)^0.5 -1]/[x-4]

Homework Equations


053121f788c3a57247b2124097512799.png

The Attempt at a Solution


lim (x->4) [(x-3)^0.5 -1]/[x-4]
= lim (x->4) ([(x-3)^0.5 -1]/[x-4]) * [((x-3)^0.5 +1)/((x-3)^0.5 +1)]
= lim (x->4) [x - 3 -1]/[(x-4)(x-3)^0.5 +1)]
= [4 - 3 -1]/[(4-4)((4-3)^0.5 +1)]
= 0/ (1)
= 0

However my book says it's equal to 0.5
I don't know how to get to that answer.

Please don't say, "use L'hopital's rule" because this problem is assuming that you didn't learn derivatives, integrals, etc to solve the problem.

You substituted numbers too soon. You started with
f(x) \equiv \frac{\sqrt{x-3}-1}{x-4} = \frac{(\sqrt{x-3}-1)(\sqrt{x-3}+1)}{(x-4)(\sqrt{x-3}+1)} \\<br /> = \frac{x-3-1}{(x-4)(\sqrt{x-3}+1)}.
Then you stopped simplifying, and that is where you ran into trouble. Why not go all the way? Continue to simplify, and write the last form as
\frac{1}{\sqrt{x-3}+1}
(That cancels the ##(x-4)## in the numerator and the denominator.) In other words, for all ##x \neq 4## we have
f(x) = \frac{\sqrt{x-3}-1}{x-4} = \frac{1}{\sqrt{x-3}+1} \equiv g(x)
The limit of ##f## is also the limit of ##g##, and the latter is easy to get.
 
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