Analyze the movement after displacing the mass xo horizontally

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The discussion focuses on analyzing the motion of a mass attached to two springs after a small horizontal displacement. Participants suggest starting with Hooke's Law to determine the potential energy and derive the force acting on the mass. The movement is characterized by a non-simple harmonic motion, leading to a complex differential equation, specifically \ddot{x} = - \frac{k}{ml^2}(x^3). There is uncertainty about the displacement's orientation, with implications for the complexity of the analysis if vertical displacements are involved. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the need for advanced mathematical tools, like Lagrangian mechanics, to solve the problem effectively.
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Dear friends,

I need some help with this problem. As you can see in the picture we have this mass attached to two springs of proper length l and I'm asked to analyze the movement after displacing the mass xo horizontally (being xo very small).

I don't want you to solve the problem for me. Just give me a hint how I should begin. I know the oscillator is anharmonic and I believe the best thing to do is analyze its potential and draw the phase plane. But I don't know how to do that.

Thanks for your help
 

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What I'd do is determine the potential energy (U) stored in the springs for any value of q (using Hooke's Law), and then use the fact that the force F = -dU/dq. From this you can determine the acceleration in terms of the position q and hence form a simple 2nd order DE to solve for the equation of the motion of the mass.
 
Feynmanfan said:
As you can see in the picture we have this mass attached to two springs of proper length l and I'm asked to analyze the movement after displacing the mass xo horizontally (being xo very small).
Are you sure xo is a horizontal displacement? If so, wouldn't we have to know the distance q when the mass displaced horizontally?

AM
 
Andrew Mason said:
Are you sure xo is a horizontal displacement? If so, wouldn't we have to know the distance q when the mass displaced horizontally?

AM

Perhaps it's a plan view ? Anyway, the problem would be even more complicated if we had to consider gravity.

Assuming that that is a plan view and that all the displacements are in one horizontal plane, the simplest approximate differential equation I could come up with to describe the motion was :

\ddot{x} = - \frac{k}{ml^2}(x^3)

which I don't know how to solve. It certainly isn't simple harmonic motion.

The exact d.e. is a lot more complicated and almost certainly unsolvable exactly.

k, BTW, is the spring constant of one of the identical springs.
 
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But if q is indeed a vertical displacement and x is a horizontal one, then it becomes an oscillation in two planes. I think that one would call for solution with a Lagrangian. It's been a long time since I did anything like that, and it isn't elementary.
 
Curious3141 said:
Assuming that that is a plan view and that all the displacements are in one horizontal plane, the simplest approximate differential equation I could come up with to describe the motion was :

\ddot{x} = - \frac{k}{ml^2}(x^3)

which I don't know how to solve.
Right. I get the same equation:

The restoring force is:

(1)F = -2k dL sin(\theta) \approx -2kdL(x/L)

Since:

L^2 + x^2 = (L + dl)^2 = L^2 + 2Ldl + dl^2

ignoring the dl^2 term for small x,

dl = x^2/2L

substituting in (1),

F = -2k(x^2/2L)(x/L) = -kx^3/L^2 = m\ddot x

Perhaps someone with access to Maple or Mathematica will be able to tackle this. I found this general solution to third order differential equations.

http://virtual.cvut.cz/dyn/examples/examples/equations/eqs7/

AM
 
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