Angular acceleration and Newton's 2nd law

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The problem involves a solid cylindrical disk experiencing angular acceleration when a tangential force is applied. The objective is to determine the mass of the disk based on the given parameters of force, radius, and angular acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of torque and its relationship to angular acceleration and moment of inertia. There are attempts to apply the formula for net external torque and questions about the correct moment of inertia for a solid cylinder.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the validity of the equations used and exploring the correct moment of inertia for the disk. Some have provided links to resources for clarification, while others express confusion about their calculations.

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There is mention of a lack of information in the original poster's textbook regarding different moments of inertia for various shapes, which has led to some misunderstandings in the application of the formulas.

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Homework Statement


A solid cylindrical disk has a radius of 0.16 m. It is mounted to an axle that is perpendicular to the circular end of the disk at its center. When a 45 N force is applied tangentially to the disk, perpendicular to the radius, the disk acquires an angular acceleration of 110 rad/s2. What is the mass of the disk?

F=45 N
r=0.16 meters
a=110
m=?


Homework Equations



torque=F(l)
torque = force * lever arm


net external torque=mr^2*a

The Attempt at a Solution


So far, I've gotten torque = 45*.16 = 7.2
7.2=m(0.16)^2 * 110
and solving for m gives me 2.556
but that is not correct. I am absolutely stumped.

Thanks for any help.
 
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Bjamin0325 said:
net external torque=mr^2*a
That's not true in general, and certainly not true for a cylinder. Look up the rotational inertia of standard shapes.
 
Bjamin0325 said:

Homework Equations


net external torque=mr^2*a

What makes you think this? What is the moment of inertia of a solid cylinder about its axis of rotation?

Edited to add:

Dang Doc, you type too fast.
 
My book doesn't have anything about different moments of inertia for different shapes, so I figured that was right.

I looked up the rotational inertias :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_moments_of_inertia

and it says for a thin solid disk, it is I=(mr^2)/4.

I tried this:
net torque=I*a, so
7.2=((mr^2)/4)*110, and solving for m did not give me the right answer.

oh no.
 
nevermind, I=mr^2/2.
thanks for the help, everybody.
 

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