Angular frequency descriptive term

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the search for a descriptive term for an angular frequency that is consistently equal to 2Pi, with variations only by tens multiples or divisions. Participants also explore the associated wavelength and the implications of these concepts in relation to frequency and angular frequency.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about a descriptive term for an angular frequency that is always equal to 2Pi, differing only by tens multiples or divisions.
  • Another participant suggests the term "harmonic" in relation to angular frequency.
  • The original poster clarifies that they are not referring to harmonics but rather to a "generic angular frequency" that can represent any full wave regardless of its length when using multiples of 2Pi.
  • It is noted that converting a tens multiple or division of 2Pi into a wavelength yields a consistent numeric value, which the original poster refers to as a "generic wavelength."
  • A participant introduces the concept of "decade" as a factor of 10, relevant in discussions of frequency on a logarithmic scale.
  • The original poster acknowledges the need to distinguish between frequency and angular frequency when converting to wavelength, leading to the definition of "angular wavelength" as normal wavelength divided by 2Pi.
  • The original poster expresses gratitude for the clarification, indicating a realization of a misunderstanding in their reasoning.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a specific term for the described angular frequency and wavelength relationship. There are competing views regarding the terminology and definitions involved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of distinguishing between frequency and angular frequency, as well as the implications of these distinctions for wavelength calculations. There is an acknowledgment of potential misunderstandings in the reasoning process.

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Is there a descriptive term for an angular frequency that is always equal to 2Pi, differing only by a tens multiple or division?

Equivalently, is there a descriptive term for the wavelength associated with the above value. Dividing any tens multiple or division of 2Pi into the speed of light produces a numeric value of 4771345... differing only in decimal point placement.
 
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Angular frequency has units of radians per second, or [tex]s^{-1}[/tex]

Are you thinking of the term harmonic?
 
No, not a harmonic, only tens multiples or divisions. Angular frequency is the descriptive term to describe "any" result that is arrived at using 2Pi x freq.

As a frequency, any result that gives a tens multiple or division of 2Pi is essentially a "generic angular frequency" for a wave. If you start out with an angular frequency where the frequency is "one", that value can represent any full wave regardless of its length. If I start adding a tens multiplier to the 2Pi value and convert that to a wavelength, I get a "base" wavelength for any wavelength in that tens range.

As a frequency, when 2Pi or any tens multiple or division of that value converted to a wavelength gives a numeric value of 47713... differing only in decimal point. The 47713... value might be construed as a "generic wavelength".

There isn't a definition for a "generic angular frequency", or for a "generic wavelength". I want to know if there are existing descriptive terms that describe that particular frequency and wavelength relationship.
 
I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. A factor of 10 is called a decade, and it's common to think in terms of decades when dealing with frequency on a log scale.
 
When you mentioned that it is usual to think of frequency in terms of decades I realized that I have to distinguish between frequency and angular frequency when I convert to wavelength, one giving "normal" wavelength and the other "angular wavelength".

The definition for "angular wavelength" is dividing normal wavelength by 2Pi.

http://vip.ocsnet.net/~ancient/Freq-AngularFreq.pdf"

After going in circles on this for awhile you made me realize I was in an erroneous mental logic loop.

I recall a quote from a book, "Boltzmanns Atom", where Neils Bohr is quoted saying to Einstein, "No, No, you are not thinking, you are just being logical."

I think you have helped me solve a several thousand year old mathematical problem. I thank you.
 
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