How Do You Normalize an Angular Momentum State and Determine Lz Probabilities?

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The discussion revolves around normalizing an angular momentum state represented by a linear combination of kets and determining the probabilities associated with the z-component of angular momentum (Lz) for specific eigenvalues.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the normalization of the state and the relationship between probability amplitudes and probabilities. Questions arise regarding the method of normalization and the interpretation of the coefficients as probability amplitudes.

Discussion Status

Some participants express uncertainty about the normalization process and the connection to the eigenvalues of Lz. Clarifications about the meaning of the coefficients in relation to the probabilities have been provided, but there is no explicit consensus on the normalization method itself.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem statement, which requires normalization of the state and calculation of probabilities without providing specific methods or formulas. There is an acknowledgment of the need to maintain the relative sizes of the coefficients during normalization.

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Homework Statement



A particle is in an angular momentum state

Ψ(θ,φ) = |l=1,m=1> + 2|1,0> + 3|1,-1>

Normalize this state and find the probabilities for finding the system with its third component Lz with values hbar, 0, -hbar.



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I know that to normalize the kets, I just have to multiply them by their bras, but I'm not sure if I multiply the entire equation by the same bra or how to multiply it by three different bras. (I'm also not sure if I'm even on the right track.)
 
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kcasali said:

Homework Statement



A particle is in an angular momentum state

Ψ(θ,φ) = |l=1,m=1> + 2|1,0> + 3|1,-1>

Normalize this state and find the probabilities for finding the system with its third component Lz with values hbar, 0, -hbar.

- the coefficients 1, 2, and 3 are probability amplitudes. you know that if you square the probability amplitude, you get a probability. Right now, your probability adds up to 1^2 + 2^2 + 3^2. You want to do something to these coefficients so that their squares add up to 1... instead of 1^2 + 2^2 + 3^2. But you have to do the same thing to each amplitude so that their relative sizes don't change.
 
xcrunner2414 said:
- the coefficients 1, 2, and 3 are probability amplitudes. you know that if you square the probability amplitude, you get a probability. Right now, your probability adds up to 1^2 + 2^2 + 3^2. You want to do something to these coefficients so that their squares add up to 1... instead of 1^2 + 2^2 + 3^2. But you have to do the same thing to each amplitude so that their relative sizes don't change.

That makes sense, but where am I supposed to get the hbar and -hbar from? Am I missing something really obvious?
 
kcasali said:
That makes sense, but where am I supposed to get the hbar and -hbar from? Am I missing something really obvious?

- If you measure the particle to have z-component spin of hbar, that means it's in the |1,1> state. If its z-component is 0, it's in the |1,0> state. If its z-component is -hbar, it's in the |1,-1> state.
 
xcrunner2414 said:
- If you measure the particle to have z-component spin of hbar, that means it's in the |1,1> state. If its z-component is 0, it's in the |1,0> state. If its z-component is -hbar, it's in the |1,-1> state.

Ahhh, thank you! Am I on the right track to normalize the state initially?
 
Nevermind, I got it. Thank you!
 
Had the same problem quasite a while ago.
Did the same mistake.
 

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