Angular Momentum Eigenfunctions for Bead on a Wire

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The discussion revolves around a quantum mechanics problem involving a bead of mass m on a circular ring, specifically focusing on the wave function and the calculation of expectation values, eigenfunctions, and eigenvalues related to angular momentum.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the form of the eigenfunctions, with some suggesting it should include terms like eiθ. There are attempts to derive the eigenfunctions from the differential equation related to angular momentum. Questions arise about the correctness of proposed forms and the implications of boundary conditions on eigenvalues.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with various participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to solve the differential equation and apply boundary conditions to determine eigenvalues and eigenfunctions. There is no explicit consensus on the correct forms or solutions yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of boundary conditions in determining eigenvalues, and there is mention of a specific wave function that may not be directly relevant to finding the eigenfunctions at this stage.

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Homework Statement



A bead of mass m on a circular ring has the wave function Acos\stackrel{2}{}θ.
Find expectation value, eigenfunctions & eigenvalues.

Homework Equations



The differential operator for the angular momentum is L = \hbar/i (\partial/\partialθ).

The Attempt at a Solution



I have found that the expectation value is zero, and now I would like to solve for eigenvalues and eigenfunctions. I understand that the eigenfunctions must have the form Ce-iθ/\hbar ... but I don't know where to go from here. How can I begin to solve for these eigenfunctions?
 
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thelonious said:

Homework Statement



A bead of mass m on a circular ring has the wave function Acos\stackrel{2}{}θ.
Find expectation value, eigenfunctions & eigenvalues.

Homework Equations



The differential operator for the angular momentum is L = \hbar/i (\partial/\partialθ).

The Attempt at a Solution



I have found that the expectation value is zero, and now I would like to solve for eigenvalues and eigenfunctions. I understand that the eigenfunctions must have the form Ce-iθ/\hbar ... but I don't know where to go from here. How can I begin to solve for these eigenfunctions?
How did you come up with that form for the eigenfunction? It's not quite right.
 
It is my understanding that since the eigenfunction will have the form L|λ> = α|λ> (where |λ> denotes the eigenvector and α its eigenvalue), and the operator L contains a partial with respect to θ, the eigenfunction must include e. Is this incorrect? I do not know how to solve for the exact eigenfunctions, but I expect that they will have this form.
 
It's close, but the function should depend on the eigenvalue a.

You want to solve the differential equation
\frac{\hbar}{i}\frac{\partial \psi}{\partial \theta} = a\psito find the eigenfunctions. The boundary conditions will then tell you what the eigenvalues are.
 
For the eigenfunctions, I have found:

L\Psi=2A\hbaricos\phisin\phi

The boundary conditions:

\Psi(\phi,0) = \Psi(\phi+2\pi,0)

Can I find the eigenvalues with these equations?
 
Forget about the given wave function for right now. You want to solve the differential equation and apply the boundary conditions to find the eigenvalues and eigenfunctions.

Once you have those, then you want to write the given wave function in terms of those eigenfunctions.
 

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