Angular Momentum of each particle about the origin

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angular momentum of three particles about the origin, with specific details provided for each particle's position, mass, and velocity direction. The subject area is classical mechanics, focusing on angular momentum concepts.

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  • Participants are attempting to compute the angular momentum using the cross product of position and momentum vectors. There are discussions about the correct representation of vectors based on their directional components.

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Some participants have provided corrections to initial attempts, clarifying vector components and ensuring proper calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct orientations and values for the vectors involved, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can provide to one another. There are also mentions of potential misunderstandings regarding the orientation of the triangle related to one of the particles.

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Homework Statement


Determine the Angular Momentum of each particle about the origin

Point A Located @ (-8,12), 6kg,4m/s, headed 60degrees below the horizon to the right
Point B (2,1.5),4kg, 6m/s, headed 30 degrees above the horizon to the right
Point C (6,-2), 2kg, 2.6m/s, headed on a 5,12,13 angled to the left and down


Homework Equations



L=r x p
p=mv


The Attempt at a Solution



A. -8i+12j X 24(-i-8.66j)=
B. 2i+1.5j X 24(i+.5j)=
c. 6i-2j X 5.2(-12i-5j)=

If this is right i don't know how to calculate it
 
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joemama69 said:
Determine the Angular Momentum of each particle about the origin

Point A Located @ (-8,12), 6kg,4m/s, headed 60degrees below the horizon to the right
Point B (2,1.5),4kg, 6m/s, headed 30 degrees above the horizon to the right
Point C (6,-2), 2kg, 2.6m/s, headed on a 5,12,13 angled to the left and down

L=r x p
p=mv

A. -8i+12j X 24(-i-8.66j)=
B. 2i+1.5j X 24(i+.5j)=
c. 6i-2j X 5.2(-12i-5j)=

If this is right i don't know how to calculate it

Not quite right. To the right is +i isn't it?
A. -8i+12j X 24(-i-8.66j)=
should be
A. (-8i + 12j) X 24*(.5i - .866j)=

B. 2i+1.5j X 24(i+.5j)=
should be
B. (2i + 1.5j) X 24*(.866i + .5j)=

c. 6i-2j X 5.2(-12i-5j)=
should be
c. (6i - 2j) X 5.2*(-12i - 5j -13k) =

To take the cross product ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_product#Computing_the_cross_product
 
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(-8i + 12j) X 24*(.5i - 8.66j)

It should be (-8i + 12j) X 24*(.5i - .866j)
 
rl.bhat said:
(-8i + 12j) X 24*(.5i - 8.66j)

It should be (-8i + 12j) X 24*(.5i - .866j)

Indeed it should. Thanks for the catch.
 
ok i see my mistakes.

just to clarify @ point C

13 is not the k value, it is the third side of the triangle/hipotinuse
 
Ok so here what i got

A. (-8i+12j)X(12i-20.784j)=22.72k
B. (2i+1.5j)X(2.784i+12j)=-7.176k
C. (6i-2j)X(62.4i-26j)=280k
 
joemama69 said:
Ok so here what i got

A. (-8i+12j)X(12i-20.784j)=22.72k
B. (2i+1.5j)X(2.784i+12j)=-7.176k
C. (6i-2j)X(62.4i-26j)=280k

A. (-8 i + 12 j) X (12 i - 20.784 j)= 22.272 k

C. (6i-2j)X(62.4i-26j)=280k
Looking at the original direction again I think it should be -26 i -62.4 j. This yields a different result.
 
Nope the triangle is not oriented like that


the bottom is 12 or -12i, the side is on the right and up -5j.
 
joemama69 said:
Nope the triangle is not oriented like thatthe bottom is 12 or -12i, the side is on the right and up -5j.

OK. I can't see the picture, so going with that ... so using -62.4 i -26 j
shouldn't it be -156 - 124.8 = -280.8 k
 

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