Angular momentum of particle about the origin

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angular momentum of a particle moving along a specified line in a two-dimensional space. The particle has a mass of 5 kg and a constant velocity of 2 m/s. The original poster is trying to understand how to apply the angular momentum formula in this context.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the angular momentum formula but questions the behavior of the distance r as the particle moves. Some participants clarify that the angular momentum depends on the component of the position vector that is orthogonal to the momentum vector.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's confusion regarding the increasing distance and the components of the vectors involved. A diagram shared by one participant appears to have helped clarify the situation for the original poster, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about the relationship between the position vector and the momentum vector, particularly regarding how the components change over time. There is also mention of the original poster's intent to support the forum, reflecting a positive engagement with the community.

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Homework Statement


A particle (5 kg) moves with constant velocity 2 m/s along the straight line 2y=3x+4, the angular momentum of the particle about origin is?

Homework Equations


L=r x p

The Attempt at a Solution


For a 2d problem we take the component of velocity perpendicular to the point about which we want to find the momentum and multiply it with the perpendicular distance. Here slope of the line gives tanθ=3/2, p=mv=10 and L=mvrcosθ, mvcosθ equals 20/√13 but isn't the distance r (here r=the y coordinate of the particle) continuously increasing? I get the correct answer for r=2 though, I don't understand how. I'd really appreciate some help, thank you
 
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##\vec r \times \vec p## only depends on the part of ##\vec r## that is orthogonal to ##\vec p##.
 
Orodruin said:
##\vec r \times \vec p## only depends on the part of ##\vec r## that is orthogonal to ##\vec p##.
I know only the very basics of vectors, (its yet to be reached in our mathematics coursework). I suppose the part of r that's perpendicular to momentum is what you mean but that part seems to be increasing with time as well
 
Krushnaraj Pandya said:
but that part seems to be increasing with time as well
Why do you think so? (It is not correct)
 
upload_2018-10-23_16-12-40.jpeg

Here is a quick drawing of the situation.
The red vector is always the part of the position vector orthogonal to p. The blue vectors are different position vectors for the part let moving along the black line and the magenta vector its momentum. The green vectors are the components of the position vectors not perpendicular to p.
 

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Here is a quick drawing of the situation.
The red vector is always the part of the position vector orthogonal to p. The blue vectors are different position vectors for the part let moving along the black line and the magenta vector its momentum. The green vectors are the components of the position vectors not perpendicular to p.
Ohh, I understand really well where I was thinking wrong. The diagram helped a lot. Thank you :D
The fact that people on this website take out so much time to help students like me amazes me, so I've thought about donating to the site from my savings after my exams this year are over. can you direct me to where I can do that?
 
Krushnaraj Pandya said:
The fact that people on this website take out so much time to help students like me amazes me, so I've thought about donating to the site from my savings after my exams this year are over. can you direct me to where I can do that?
If you want to support PF I would suggest a gold membership. It supports PF and you get something out of it. See also
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/easy-ways-you-can-support-physics-forums.813856/
 
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