Angular momentum relative to the origin

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the angular momentum of a particle-like object moving in a plane, given its mass, velocity components, and position coordinates. The context is within the subject area of angular momentum in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the correct application of the angular momentum formula, noting the vector cross product involved. There is an exploration of the sign of the angular momentum result and its implications.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered clarifications regarding the order of the vectors in the cross product, indicating a productive exchange of ideas. There is acknowledgment of a misunderstanding regarding the formula, and participants are reflecting on their memorization of the concepts.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of discrepancies in the sign of the angular momentum result as accepted by an online platform, which raises questions about the correctness of the initial calculation.

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Homework Statement


A 2.4 kg particle-like object moves in a plane with velocity components vx = 25 m/s and vy = 80 m/s as it passes through the point with (x, y)coordinates of (3.0, −4.0) m. (Express your answers in vector form.)
(a) What is its angular momentum relative to the origin at this moment?

Homework Equations


L=pxr

The Attempt at a Solution



I did 2.4*the 3x3 matrix
i j k
25 80 0
3 -4 0
and this gave me 2.4*(-100-240)k = -816k.

[FONT=verdana, geneva, sans-serif]When I entered this in, I got this wrong, but without the minus sign (so 816k), the webassign accepted this as correct. However, this bothers me because isn't the correct sign supposed to be negative?
 
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JessicaHelena said:

Homework Equations


L=pxr

##\vec{L} = \vec{r} \times \vec{p}##

Surely?
 
Ah, right... r x p doesn't equal p x r and I memorised the formula the wrong way. Thank you.
 
JessicaHelena said:
Ah, right... r x p doesn't equal p x r and I memorised the formula the wrong way. Thank you.

If you start from a point, the ##\vec{r}## displacement comes first. If you follow this you reach the particle, where you find the momentum ##\vec{p}##.

That's how I remember it.
 

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