Angular momentum of this classical electron?

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The problem involves a classical electron moving in a circular path, with the goal of finding the quantum number L that corresponds to its angular momentum. The context is rooted in classical mechanics and quantum mechanics, particularly focusing on angular momentum.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of angular momentum using the formula L = r * p and explore the relationship between classical and quantum angular momentum. Questions arise regarding the appropriate quantum mechanical equations, such as L = √(l(l+1)ħ) and the implications of using Bohr's model. There is also inquiry into the necessity of assuming a principal quantum number n and how it relates to the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with various approaches being considered to connect classical and quantum concepts. Some participants suggest using Bohr's model for angular momentum, while others question the assumptions made about quantum numbers. There is no explicit consensus, but multiple interpretations and potential pathways are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of information regarding the principal quantum number and the implications of assuming n = 1. The mention of "classical electron" suggests a specific framework for analysis, which may influence the approach taken.

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Homework Statement


a classical electron moves in a circle of radius 0.5mm with velocity 20ms-1
what is the value of the quantum number L which gives a quantised angular momentum close to the angular momentum of this classical electron?


Homework Equations



L=r * p

The Attempt at a Solution



L=r*p
500e-6 * 20=0.010
 
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You need to throw in the equation for quantum angular momentum.
 
is it L=\sqrt{l(l+1)hbar}
 
is it possible to find the value of the quantum number "l" (azimuthal quantum number)?
 
Check the dimensions in that formula.
 
do i have to presume that n=1 before i continue the calculation, because there is no mention of principal quantum number in the question?
 
The description says "classical electron". So I guess you should use Bohr's model here. What is the angular momentum in Bohr's model?
 
the lowest value for n is 1, this gives the smallest orbital radius 0.0529nm(bohr radius)
L=r*p=mvr m=9.1e-31, v=20m/s r=0.5nm
mvr=nhbar

L=n h/2pi=nhbar
 
I think you should use the latter formula to determine n that gives the closest match of L to that of the classical electron.
 
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can you explain that again please
 
  • #11
You can compute the angular momentum from the radius and velocity given.

You have the formula for the angular momentum in Bohr's model. What n gives the closest fit between the two?

You could also consider the other formula, involving the square root of l(l + 1). For large n, and correspondingly large l, what can be said about the results given by these two equations?
 

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