Angular Velocity from Potential and Mechanical Energy of rotating rod

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the angular velocity of a falling rod at the moment it becomes horizontal, focusing on the relationship between potential energy and mechanical energy in a gravitational context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to relate the potential energy of the rod to its mechanical energy at the horizontal position, questioning whether to use the full length of the rod or just the length to the center of mass for calculating potential energy.

Discussion Status

Some participants confirm the original poster's approach regarding potential energy calculations and clarify the use of the center of mass in the equations. However, there is no explicit consensus on the complete method or final outcome.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the potential energy equation and its components, indicating a focus on the correct interpretation of the rod's dimensions in relation to its center of mass.

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Homework Statement



I am asked to find the angular velocity of a falling rod in the instant that the rod meets the horizontal. The system is set up in this image:

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The only force acting on the rod is gravity

Homework Equations



U = (1/2)MgL
K = (1/2)Iw2
Kf + Uf = Ki + Ui

The Attempt at a Solution



Can I solve this by using the potential energy of the rod with this equation:

U = (1/2)MgL

and then equating that to the Mechanical Energy at the point that it meets the horizontal?

I know the moment of inertia of the rod so if I do (1/2)MgL = (1/2)Iw2 and solve for omega, is that correct?

Also, when finding the initial potential energy, should i use the full length of the rod or only the length to the center of mass?

Thank you!
 
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yes, you are correct. to calculate the initial potential energy, just use the altitude of the center of mass and drop the (1/2), that should not be there.

good luck
 
Oh okay, so let me just make sure I understand:

so this is the correct way to find the initial potential energy?

U = mgLsin[tex]\theta[/tex]

where L is the length to the center of mass
 
correct.
 
thanks so much!
 

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