AP Calculus Help: Solving y^2=2+xy

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The discussion revolves around the implicit differentiation of the equation y² = 2 + xy, with specific tasks including finding the derivative, identifying points on the curve with certain tangent slopes, and analyzing the relationship between x and y as functions of time.

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  • Participants explore the geometric interpretation of derivatives and how it relates to the tasks at hand. Some attempt to find specific points on the curve where the tangent has a slope of 1/2 and question the existence of horizontal tangents.

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Some participants have provided hints and attempted calculations for parts b and c, while others express confusion about the implications of their findings. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables and the results of their calculations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is also a focus on the implications of the derivative in relation to the geometry of the curve.

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AP Calculus help!

Homework Statement



consider y^2=2+xy

a. show that dy/dx = y/2y-x
b. find all pints (x,y) on the curve where the line tangent to the curve has slope 1/2
c. show that there are no points (x,y) on the curve where the line tangent to the curve is horizontal
d. Let x and y be functions of time t that are related by the equation y^2=2+xy. At time t=5, the value of y is 3 and dy/dt=6. Find the value of dx/dt at time t=5.

Homework Equations


chain rule, implicit differentiation

The Attempt at a Solution



for this did part a, but I am really confused for b, c and dThanks in advance for all your help.

 
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Parts B and C:
some hints:
How would you interpret the derivative of a function at a point geometrically?
Notice also that in part a you have shown dy/dx to be a function of x and y. How can you relate this function to the geometrical interpretation of the derivative?
 
gonzalo12345 said:

Homework Statement



consider y^2=2+xy

a. show that dy/dx = y/2y-x
b. find all pints (x,y) on the curve where the line tangent to the curve has slope 1/2

Set dy/dx = 1/2 . What do you find?

c. show that there are no points (x,y) on the curve where the line tangent to the curve is horizontal

Set dy/dx = 0. What do you find? (Do you find anything?)

d. Let x and y be functions of time t that are related by the equation y^2=2+xy. At time t=5, the value of y is 3 and dy/dt=6. Find the value of dx/dt at time t=5.

This looks like a job for the Chain Rule! Differentiate the equation for the curve with respect to the parameter t. I believe you otherwise have all the information you need to answer the question.
 
Ok so check me if I am wrong:

for part b:

y/(2y-x) = 1/2
2y-2y= x
0 =x so the points would be (0, ± √2)

for part c:
y/(2y-x) = 0
y = 0

then 0 = 2 + x0
0 = 2 so it doesn't exist, therefore there is no point where the tangent is horizontal.


for d:

2y dy/dt = 0 + y.dx/dt + x.dy/dx
36 = 3.dx/dt + 16x
36 = 6x+3dx/dt x= 22/3

36 = 14 + 3dx/dt


22/3 = dx/dt
 
gonzalo12345 said:
Ok so check me if I am wrong:

for part b:

y/(2y-x) = 1/2
2y-2y= x
0 =x so the points would be (0, ± ?2)

for part c:
y/(2y-x) = 0
y = 0

then 0 = 2 + x0
0 = 2 so it doesn't exist, therefore there is no point where the tangent is horizontal.


for d:

2y dy/dt = 0 + y.dx/dt + x.dy/dx
36 = 3.dx/dt + 16x
36 = 6x+3dx/dt ; x= 22/3

36 = 14 + 3dx/dt


22/3 = dx/dt

I concur. :-)
 

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