AP Phys, have i done something bad?

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The discussion revolves around a 10th-grade student's concerns regarding their choice to take AP Physics B and its relevance to their aspirations in engineering, particularly aeronautical and mechanical fields. The student questions whether they should continue with the course, consider additional AP science classes, and how their current performance (B+) might affect college admissions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that AP Physics B is a valid choice for engineering, emphasizing that a solid understanding of the material is essential for any engineering discipline.
  • Others suggest that while AP Physics B provides foundational knowledge, it may not be sufficient preparation for advanced physics and engineering courses in college.
  • A participant references the College Board's description of AP Physics B, indicating that it is often seen as a terminal course for non-majors, which raises concerns about its applicability for future engineering studies.
  • Another viewpoint suggests that high school courses may not significantly prepare students for engineering careers, encouraging the student to focus on enjoying their classes and learning styles instead.
  • Some participants recommend taking AP Physics C in the future, noting that it is calculus-based and more aligned with engineering coursework.
  • There is a suggestion that taking additional AP science courses, such as Chemistry and Biology, could be beneficial for a well-rounded education in engineering.
  • One participant emphasizes that having AP credits can be advantageous for college applications, regardless of the specific subject matter.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of AP Physics B for engineering preparation, with some defending its relevance while others question its adequacy. There is no consensus on whether the student should pursue additional AP science courses, as opinions vary on their necessity and impact on college readiness.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that AP Physics B is algebra-based, while AP Physics C is calculus-based, which may influence the student's future course selections. The discussion also highlights the variability in high school offerings and the potential impact of AP courses on college admissions.

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I am currently a 10th grade student in AP Phys B. I am also in AP Calc AB. I am extremely interested in engineering (especially aeronautical and mechanical). The problem is, I decided to take AP Physics B because it was the only class that sounded like engineering to me (school doesn't offer any other AP Physics besides B). The more I read about it, the more it sounds like AP Physics B is completely wrong for Engineering. Where do i go from here, since it's too late to drop AP Physics. Should i just finish this course and not worry about colleges think of my AP Phys B? Should I take an outside of school course next year? Also, is it worth taking other AP sciences such as AP Chem or AP Bio if i really have my heart set on engineering? Finally, I currently have a B+ in AP Physics, is this a bad thing, or is it ok considering i am only a sophomore? sorry for all the questions, i am just frustrated by this apparent mess I've gotten myself into.
 
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I have no idea where you heard that AP Phys B was a bad choice for engineering. It's not possible to be a competent engineer of any type without a solid understanding of that material, in fact it's only scratching the surface of what you need to know.

For mech E/aeronautical, chem will help you less, but it's still good to have a basic understanding of chemistry principles. If you're not interested in doing something with bio, I wouldn't bother with that.
 
Take AP Physics C next year if you can, but AP Physics B is the base of physics so it's really good to take, idk why would think it's bad..
 
from the collegeboard website " In most colleges, this is
a one-year terminal course including a laboratory component and is not the usual
preparation for more advanced physics and engineering courses . However, Category B
courses often provide a foundation in physics for students in the life sciences, premedicine, and some applied sciences, as well as other fields not directly related to science .
AP Physics B is intended to be equivalent to such course" maybe i am just interpreting this information wrong
 
It sounds like they are talking about a college physics course which students may place out of if they took AP Physics B. Since most students who go into science or engineering take AP Physics B in high school, such a college course is usually taken by non-majors who just need to fill a requirement.
 
Okay, Mr. Lance. Here's a break down for you:

High school level work won't really do much for you, in terms of preparation, in the field you plan to pursue your career in. Just take classes, enjoy them, have fun, figure out your style of learning and get into college. Don't sweat it, bro. If anything, you can find an old textbook and teach yourself some basics in physics, chem, math or whatever you think will help you and you need to know.

Now, it looks to me like you're one of those "high school superstars" who like to push themselves in high school. There's nothing wrong with this kind of attitude and I applaud you as a 10th grader for doing this. I don't want you to turn down the heat because of me. I'm just a guy on the internet. Lol. But I want you to know that you'll be fine, even with your B+ in high school physics, and you're fine. You haven't made a big mistake by taking AP Physics B. No mistake at all. If you're trying to impress big name schools, just keep on pushing yourself the way you currently are doing. Just take it easy. You haven't gotten yourself into any mess; you just registered for a course :smile:

Should you take those courses you mentioned? Like I said, high school won't really prepare you to be an engineer so take them based on your own judgement. Take them for fun if you want
 
Notes: Obviously: B is algebra-based... C is calc-based. You can't take C until you have a reasonable level of calculus. Engineering college introductory courses are calculus-based... but almost all engineers take those courses their first year-and-a-half to two years of college (but most of those have taken a high school algebra-based class). The calculus tests are only if you want to test out of some or all of those college introductory-levels.Whether or not you choose to take college credit for the AP course is another matter. it depends on your score on the AP exam, your confidence in your knowledge, and how it might cover (or not cover) the course material in your eventual program (that's a bit too early to know now, since you aren't sure where you will go, etc.).That said:
I generally think that the more AP courses (science or humanities) you can handle in high school, the better. Why? You'll probably get the best teachers... which is always best for your education (as well as, in this case, your undergraduate admissions application).

Taking AP science courses in Chemistry and Biology will better prepare you for engineering. I often talk about materials (I'm generally a materials-science person) and sometimes talk about biology in the mandatory physics course I teach to undergraduate-engineering students. While these are limited to certain "applications" or "examples" in class, the more base knowledge you have, the more you'll get out those parts of the lecture... and more and more programs like biological engineering ARE out there, in case you choose to go that route (or the traditional "chemical engineering" route).
 
Absolutely not.

Most high schools don't even offer Physics C (calculus based) anyway, so there's no reason for them to expect you have it when you get in.

It's good to take whatever science classes you can in high school, because it'll help you build a solid foundation for what you do when you go to college, and having an AP credit won't ever hurt you when applying for college, no matter what subject it is.
 
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