Apparently broken circuits in a resin cast stator

In summary: Rag bag of answers :-Fibre glass resin when setting in thick sections can get very hot - may have done some damage-Energise the coils and see if you get any magnetic field-Clean the leadout out wires - very easy to get a near invisible coating of resin on them-Test your meters
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I've been building a 3 phase delta wired alternator. I recently cast the stator in fiberglass resin, and now i get no response from the terminals. Before casting, I used the multimeter's resistance setting to test the connections between each pair of the three terminals, and all registered a closed circuit. After casting the stator, no pair of terminals registered a closed circuit (I tried two different multimeters).

Since the stator is wired in a delta configuration, each pair of terminals are connected to each other independently of the other one. There are no visible breaks in the wires (the resin is partly transparent), and I can't think of how the casting process could have broken the circuit in at least three different places.

The wiring of the stator (simplified):

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A picture of the stator after casting:

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Does anyone have any ideas as to what might have gone wrong, or other tests I could do?
 
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Rag bag of answers :

Fibre glass resin when setting in thick sections can get very hot - may have done some damage

Energise the coils and see if you get any magnetic field .

Clean the leadout out wires - very easy to get a near invisible coating of resin on them .

Test your meters .
 
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Thanks for the suggestions.
My meter's test out fine on other circuits.
I checked the terminals (they're cast together with the wires), and they conduct across themselves fine, so there's no resin on them.
I tried connecting pairs of terminals to a battery and a load, but there was no connection. The rotor setup isn't quite complete yet, but soon I'll activating the alternator (at low speed) to see if it can power a lamp, and if I can get any measurable voltage at the terminals.

As for the heat, Do you know what sort of damage it could have done? The solder melts at 187 degrees Celcius. I'm not sure about the copper wires themselves. But I felt the wooden mold while the resin was curing inside it; it felt warm, but if it had passed 187 degrees it would, if nothing else, have burned my fingers.
 
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I doubt whether your relatively small casting got hot enough to actually melt anything .

Most likely it was heating and cooling strains that pulled something apart in the wiring .

Odd though that all three phases are dead .
 
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Yes, it's very odd. The heating and cooling strains would have had to pull at least 3 specific things apart in the wiring. And since I can still see the wires through the semi-transparent resin, it would have to pull it apart in a subtle enough way so as not to be visibly obvious.
 
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desquee said:
I've been building a 3 phase delta wired alternator. I recently cast the stator in fiberglass resin, and now i get no response from the terminals. Before casting, I used the multimeter's resistance setting to test the connections between each pair of the three terminals, and all registered a closed circuit. After casting the stator, no pair of terminals registered a closed circuit (I tried two different multimeters).

Since the stator is wired in a delta configuration, each pair of terminals are connected to each other independently of the other one. There are no visible breaks in the wires (the resin is partly transparent), and I can't think of how the casting process could have broken the circuit in at least three different places.

The wiring of the stator (simplified):

View attachment 87132

A picture of the stator after casting:

View attachment 87133Does anyone have any ideas as to what might have gone wrong, or other tests I could do?
I suspect the connection at the three terminals, they are on the perimeter and would have cooled first and put enough stress on the connection to pop the wire and the break would not be visible to the naked eye, this would explain why all three terminals are affected. One test we ran on stators to test for open circuits is to apply a high voltage low ampere power to terminals, if there is a small break in the wire the high volts will jump the break. If there is a tool repair shop nearby they will have the tool to do this test.
 

1. What causes broken circuits in a resin cast stator?

Broken circuits in a resin cast stator can be caused by a number of factors, including manufacturing defects, mechanical stress during installation or operation, environmental factors such as temperature and humidity, and chemical degradation of the resin material over time.

2. How can broken circuits in a resin cast stator be detected?

Broken circuits in a resin cast stator can be detected through various testing methods, such as insulation resistance testing, high potential testing, and visual inspection. These tests can reveal areas of high resistance or open circuits, indicating potential damage to the stator.

3. Can broken circuits in a resin cast stator be repaired?

In some cases, broken circuits in a resin cast stator can be repaired by filling the damaged area with a conductive material or by replacing the damaged section with a new resin cast. However, the extent of the damage and the location of the broken circuits will determine the feasibility and effectiveness of repairs.

4. What are the potential consequences of broken circuits in a resin cast stator?

If left unrepaired, broken circuits in a resin cast stator can lead to malfunctions or failures in the equipment it is powering. This can result in downtime, costly repairs, and potential safety hazards. It is important to address and repair broken circuits as soon as they are detected to prevent further damage.

5. How can broken circuits in a resin cast stator be prevented?

To prevent broken circuits in a resin cast stator, it is important to ensure proper manufacturing processes and quality control measures are in place. Additionally, proper installation techniques and regular maintenance can help prevent mechanical stress or environmental factors from causing damage to the stator. Using high-quality materials and monitoring the stator's performance can also help detect and address any potential issues before they escalate into broken circuits.

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