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A graduate student with a bachelor's in math and currently pursuing a diploma in engineering science at the University of Auckland is considering applying for a PhD in software engineering but feels intimidated due to a lack of published research papers. The discussion emphasizes that the belief that one must have publications to be considered for a PhD is a myth. Participants highlight that having research experience, even without publications, is valuable and that professors are often willing to work with students who have not yet published. A referenced document from Mor Harchol-Balter of Carnegie Mellon University provides useful insights, particularly regarding personal statements and the application process, reinforcing that prior research experience is more significant than publication status at the undergraduate level.
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I have a bachelor's in math and I'm doing a graduate diploma in engineering science (just a year of advanced coursework, similar to the first year of a master's degree) at the university of Auckland. My grades are pretty good (I got straight A's last semester, and I hope to get just a well this semester), so I'm thinking of applying for a PhD in engineering - preferably software engineering - but I heard that you need to have had some research papers under your belt. So I'm a bit intimidated. I have done plenty of research, but none of it has resulting in papers. I could have submitted a conference paper perhaps, but at the time I didn't think it was worth it.
So guys, based on your personal experience, would a professor be willing to work with someone with exactly 0 research papers so far?
 
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Yes.

This "you must be published" is a myth.
 
I've uploaded a file, it is a talk given by Mor Harchol-Balter, School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University. You will find the whole stuff very useful. Regarding your question, you will find it's answer in section 3.4 of this document!
 

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doodle_sack said:
I've uploaded a file, it is a talk given by Mor Harchol-Balter, School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University. You will find the whole stuff very useful. Regarding your question, you will find it's answer in section 3.4 of this document!

Wow. If any of the information carries over to grad school in math, it's the most informative document I've seen on the subject, especially the part on personal statements.
 
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Yes.

This "you must be published" is a myth.

It really is, and I have no idea why it seems to be such a widely held belief between undergraduates. Even if you do publish something at undergraduate, it will be guided almost entirely by professors so I don't think it's worth as much as people like to think. At best, it shows that you're doing some work outside of normal lecture duties - but the fact that you've 'done some research' already shows that.
 
Thanks for the responses guys.
doodle_sack: That answers a lot of my questions. Thanks.
 
doodle_sack said:
I've uploaded a file, it is a talk given by Mor Harchol-Balter, School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University. You will find the whole stuff very useful. Regarding your question, you will find it's answer in section 3.4 of this document!

That's an impressive document, and it does indeed apply to graduate school in general.
 

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