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The discussion focuses on approximating the time at which a ballistic projectile reaches maximum height, specifically for a projectile shot straight upwards with air drag. The user derived an equation for tmax using integration but struggled to simplify it to the expected result of tmax = u/g when mass is much greater than the drag effect. Another participant suggested rewriting the equation using a series expansion to clarify the relationship. This led to confirming that the correct approximation for tmax aligns with the expected result when applying the linear term of the series. The user acknowledged correcting a previous mistake in their calculations.
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Hi!

I'm slightly stuck with an approximation of tmax, the time at which a ballistic projectile reaches maximum height. (projectile shot straigh upwards, no x motion)

So, by integrating the motion equation

m * dv/dt = -mg -bv

(where b is an air drag constant) I've created:

v(t) = (u + mg/b)*e^(-bt/m) - mg/b

which at tmax (t at maximum height) must be zero, which then gives:

tmax = (-m/b) ln [ (mg/b) / (mg/b + u) ]

where u is the initial velocity in y

Now when m >> b*tmax, tmax = u/g , howver, I can't get that!

all I get is (using e^x = 1 + x + x^2/2! +...):

tmax = u / (mgb/bm + ub/m)

thanks for any help!

-tschew
 
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Tschew said:
tmax = (-m/b) ln [ (mg/b) / (mg/b + u) ] *

where u is the initial velocity in y

Now when m >> b*tmax, tmax = u/g , howver, I can't get that!

all I get is (using e^x = 1 + x + x^2/2! +...):

-tschew


You can rewrite your equation labelled with "*" as

\exp(\frac{t_{max}b}{m})= 1+\frac{ub}{mg}

As the exponent is much less than 1, you can apply the series expansion and stop at the linear term.

\exp(\frac{t_{max}b}{m})=1+\frac{t_{max}b}{m}

1+\frac{t_{max}b}{m} = 1 + \frac {ub}{mg}\rightarrow t_{max}=u/g <br />

ehild
 
Thank you.

Thanks for the reply. I noticed the minus sign in the ln() expression myself yesterday and got the result :o)

-Tschew
 
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