Arc Length of y = x^3/6 + 1/2x on [1/2, 2]

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The discussion revolves around finding the arc length of the function y = x^3/6 + 1/2x over the interval [1/2, 2]. Participants are exploring the necessary calculations and algebraic manipulations involved in applying the arc length formula.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the integration process and the algebraic simplifications needed to evaluate the arc length. There are attempts to correct algebraic mistakes and to find common denominators for fractions under the square root.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes various attempts to simplify the expression under the square root and to correctly set up the integral. Some participants provide hints and corrections, while others seek confirmation on their simplifications. There is no clear consensus on the final approach yet, but there are productive exchanges regarding the algebra involved.

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Participants are working within the constraints of homework rules, focusing on understanding the setup and calculations without providing direct solutions. There are indications of algebraic errors that need addressing, which may affect the overall progress in solving the problem.

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Homework Statement


Find the arc length of the graph, on the interval [1/2, 2], of

y = \frac{x^3}{6} + \frac{1}{2x}


Homework Equations



s = \int^b_a \sqrt{1 + [f'(x)]^2}dx

The Attempt at a Solution



I began with s = \int_{1/2}^2 \sqrt{1 + (\frac{x^2}{2} - \frac{1}{2x^2})^2}dx

and became stuck at the step s = \int_{1/2}^2 \sqrt{1/2 + \frac{x^4}{4} - \frac{1}{4x^4}}dx

I can't a integration technique that would suffice in solving this problem.
 
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Check your expansion of the squared term under the square root. You have made an algebra mistake.
After that, add up the fractions under the square root after getting a common denominator. Plug and chug.
 
I redid the work, and came up with \frac{x^4}{2} +\frac{1}{2x^4} +\frac{1}{2}

Is there some way of factoring this?
 
Nope, not in this form. Like I said, find a common denominator and add these three fractions together.
 
Okay, I found a common denominator, and then placed the new expression under the square symbol:

\frac{\sqrt{3x^4 + 2}}{2x^2} Is there where you wanted me to lead to?
 
Bashyboy said:
I redid the work, and came up with \frac{x^4}{2} +\frac{1}{2x^4} +\frac{1}{2}

Is there some way of factoring this?

Try again to expand and simplify the expression

1 +(\frac{x^2}{2} - \frac{1}{2x^2})^2

ehild
 
ehild, if you could please look at post #6 and see if I correctly simplified the expression.
 
Bashyboy said:
ehild, if you could please look at post #6 and see if I correctly simplified the expression.

It is wrong, that was I asked you to re-do it.

ehild
 
Bashyboy said:
Okay, I found a common denominator, and then placed the new expression under the square symbol:

\frac{\sqrt{3x^4 + 2}}{2x^2} Is there where you wanted me to lead to?

Hint: your integral is difficult, but the correct integral is easy.
 
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(a - b)^2 = a^2 - 2ab + b^2
 
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One of the things teachers work hard on is setting up problems that are easy for their students.

Your function is x^3/6+ x^{-1}/2. The derivative is x^2/2- x^{-2}/2. Notice that the exponents are 2 and -2. The square is x^4/4- 1/2+ x^{-4}/4. The "middle" term is a constant, because, of course, 2+ (-2)= 0. Now adding 1 gives x^4/4+ 1/2+ x^{-4}/4. Do you not see that this is exactly the same as the previous formula except that "-1/2" has become "+1/2"? Do you not see that this is exactly "(x^2/2+ x^{-2})^2"?
 
  • #12
HallsofIvy said:
Now adding 1 gives x^4/4+ 1/2+ x^{-4}/4. Do you not see that this is exactly the same as the previous formula except that "-1/2" has become "+1/2"? Do you not see that this is exactly "(x^2/2+ x^{-2})^2"?

Not quite, (x^2/2+ x^{-2}/2)^2 instead.

ehild
 

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