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Is it true that cell phones can be harmful to a person's health?
Are Cell Phones Harmful to Your Health?
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One way to ask the question that might prove more instructive is "how could cell phones be harmful?" A lot of studies have been done and some sometimes show statistical associations, but unless there is an actual link - a cause - it is improper to conclude that they cause harm.
Cell phones emit radiation at frequencies/energies that cannot break apart the molecular bonds in our cells/dna (like x-rays) and they don't have the energy or correct frequency to generate heat (like microwaves), so there is no known mechanism by which they can cause harm outside of starting a fire.
Cell phones emit radiation at frequencies/energies that cannot break apart the molecular bonds in our cells/dna (like x-rays) and they don't have the energy or correct frequency to generate heat (like microwaves), so there is no known mechanism by which they can cause harm outside of starting a fire.
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What youdo you guys think of that site?
It seems to be sending out false information.
What youdo you guys think of that site?
It seems to be sending out false information.
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Some scams are so bad that it is tough to understand how they are allowed to happen. Just selling that product should be illegal - it looks like fraud to me.
It talks about "stabilizing" the body after radiation has penetrated it (obviously, a 1x2 or whatever it is piece of material can't shield you). If you get irradiated by something that can cause damage, the damage is real and physical and can't be repaired.
It talks about "stabilizing" the body after radiation has penetrated it (obviously, a 1x2 or whatever it is piece of material can't shield you). If you get irradiated by something that can cause damage, the damage is real and physical and can't be repaired.
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[PLAIN]http://www.radar3.com/ said:
You have got to be joking...
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When you look at the research conducted in the mobile phone bands it is very sketchy and generally concludes that more research is required. I have looked at quite a few studies and none of them are really complete or represent the sort of exposures experienced.
What is clear is that every time a paper is published showing a possible health effect it is quickly followed by another proving the opposite.
Whilst I have seen no clear proof one way or the other the research is very reminisent of research into smoking in the 60's and 70's. Who's seen that classic John Wayne interview saying how not smoking was unAmerican, in respose to all those researchers saying that smoking kills.
I would not be surprised if there was a sudden rash of lawsuits within the next 20 years.
When you are on a train how many mobile phones, blue tooth and other low level transmitters are you within range of? And when you enter a tunnel all the phones ramp up their power.
The cumulative effects have not been fully established, but until it is a lot of cash can be made, therefore it is not in the interest of certain businesses to encourage clarity in research.
What is clear is that every time a paper is published showing a possible health effect it is quickly followed by another proving the opposite.
Whilst I have seen no clear proof one way or the other the research is very reminisent of research into smoking in the 60's and 70's. Who's seen that classic John Wayne interview saying how not smoking was unAmerican, in respose to all those researchers saying that smoking kills.
I would not be surprised if there was a sudden rash of lawsuits within the next 20 years.
When you are on a train how many mobile phones, blue tooth and other low level transmitters are you within range of? And when you enter a tunnel all the phones ramp up their power.
The cumulative effects have not been fully established, but until it is a lot of cash can be made, therefore it is not in the interest of certain businesses to encourage clarity in research.
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Actually, a cell phone is more likely to save your life then take it via radiation, by a far shot.
As you spend 5 minutes pondering this idea, you have already been exposed to thousand of different types of radiation, and therefore could be taking damage.
As you spend 5 minutes pondering this idea, you have already been exposed to thousand of different types of radiation, and therefore could be taking damage.
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what about radiation and possible health effects from cell phone towers? i only ask because one is going to be constructed about 2 blocks from my house. i tried to find some info on them, but most seemed to be from cell phone companies - and therefore are probably not to be trusted.
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Yes, it is.Saber said:
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Gokul43201 said:
Good one Gokul. I can't get enough of these funny commercials.
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Absolutely! A car accident is four times more likely when using a cell phone.Saber said:
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The answer is the same as with the cell phones themselves. If the frequency of the radiation doesn't interact with your body, it still won't interact with your body if you turn up the wattage.smithg86 said:
What is it about cell phones that has people so spooked? People have been listening to the radio for a hundred years!
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yes they are
they cause people to act like idiots
esp when driving
they cause people to act like idiots
esp when driving
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russ_watters said:
do you have any sources for this info? any research?
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I believe that the debate in society has to some extent moved away from ionizing radiation, because it is easy to debunk and moved over to somewhat question the influence of magnetic fields. At least in the area where I live.
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The problem is how do you conduct a true trial with adequate controls.
If you test rats in a lab you are not exposing them to all the different sources of radiation that humans are subjected to each day.
If you look at health effects across regions there are a lot of other factors to take into consideration. e.g. the statistical links between power lines and childhood lukemia.
My opinion is that whilst none of these sources is harmful on its own the cumulative exposure chips away, and those people who are genetically predisposed to various cancers will be at a slightly increased risk. Of course I can't prove that one way or the other.
If you test rats in a lab you are not exposing them to all the different sources of radiation that humans are subjected to each day.
If you look at health effects across regions there are a lot of other factors to take into consideration. e.g. the statistical links between power lines and childhood lukemia.
My opinion is that whilst none of these sources is harmful on its own the cumulative exposure chips away, and those people who are genetically predisposed to various cancers will be at a slightly increased risk. Of course I can't prove that one way or the other.
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If GSM is bad for us, then we should really already have seen the effects, considering the density of GSM radio masks. In fact, there are even located inside buildings these days.
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I want a piece of plastic that protects me from radiation after it has already penetrated my body. That company should create a patent for their devices that are capable of retrocausality and the ability to transport cells and molecules back in time to prevent this damage from occurring.
Sounds tight!
Sounds tight!
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Anttech said:
Are we not already seeing the effects?
Peoples health is not the same as it was 20 years ago. There are a lot of theories about why but no single set of causal effects have been identified.
Why is there an increase in reported cancers?
Better diagnosis?
Food Additives?
Poor Diet?
Pollution?
Increased RF Radiation?
Staring at this computer monitor?
I'm not saying there is a causal link, but I'm also not saying there is not.
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Well then it looks like you aren't saying much of anything! Just kidding, my friend :P
I can appreciate your position but I would lean towards a better understanding of cancers because of molecular genetics, biochemistry, advancements in technology, etc.
Although, my perception might be distorted.
I can appreciate your position but I would lean towards a better understanding of cancers because of molecular genetics, biochemistry, advancements in technology, etc.
Although, my perception might be distorted.
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I am saying there is not. There is no evidence to suggest EM waves at that frequency harm humans. Would you like to back your speculation with a study or two?Panda said:
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Anttech said:
would anyone like to cite their speculations?
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Proof needs to be provided that there gsm is harmful not the otherway around
Normal procedures I am afraid... Burden of proof and all that!
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GSM isn't widely used in the US, CDMA is the most common.Anttech said:Proof needs to be provided that there gsm is harmful not the otherway around
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Google it. THere are dozens of books on EM wave effect on life. THere have been documented harm effects of EM fields. Also good effects, now we can even regrow teeth with week pulses. THere have been military antenas for submarines disasemled due to their impact on nearby ppl [ofcause only after years of fight against govt, mil, and corp lobies]. If you live under high powe lines you better move..[also documented].
There we go the most popular:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0688069711/?tag=pfamazon01-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0156281007/?tag=pfamazon01-20
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