Are charged batteries heavier?

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Charged batteries are indeed more massive than their uncharged counterparts due to mass-energy equivalence, with calculations suggesting a mass increase of about 2 picograms for a typical laptop battery. This increase is attributed to the change in molecular configuration and potential energy when the battery is charged. However, measuring this mass difference is extremely challenging, as no existing scales can detect such minute changes with the required precision. The discussion also touches on the complexity of mass in multi-particle systems, emphasizing that the mass of a charged battery cannot be simply assigned to its individual components. Overall, while the concept is theoretically sound, practical measurement remains elusive.
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jerromyjon said:
What if instead of weighing batteries, you could prove one was lighter and by roughly how much...
Measuring masses and mass differences is commonly known as weighing...

To avoid material changes, you could discharge the battery via a resistor. Measure the full battery plus resistor, wait until it is discharged and cooled down and measure again.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
So, to bring this back to the OP's question:
the inflow of electricity, in the form of electrons, causes molecules to change shape, and some of the electrons' orbital energy is converted back to mass ... by way of muons?

Or am I word salading here?
Word salad with mayonnaise :) Muons and electrons are different fundamental particles. Unless your battery has a built-in particle accelerator, it's not going to change the particles themselves. Electrons remain electrons.

The energy of interest is indeed the orbital energy but it is not simply kinetic, it includes (and arguably it is) the energy of the electromagnetic field that holds the molecules together. And a field that has energy must have mass. E=mc^2.
 
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