Are equations of motion invariant under gauge transformations?

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The discussion centers on the invariance of equations of motion under gauge transformations, exploring whether they maintain this property across different theories, including electrodynamics and Yang-Mills theories. The scope includes theoretical considerations and mathematical proofs related to gauge invariance and covariance.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that since all actions are invariant under gauge transformations, the equations of motion must also be invariant.
  • Another participant agrees that the invariance of the action implies the path of least action remains unchanged.
  • Some participants argue that, in general, equations of motion are only covariant rather than invariant, citing examples from electrodynamics and Yang-Mills theories.
  • It is noted that while the equations of motion for electrodynamics are invariant under gauge transformations, those for Yang-Mills theories are only covariant.
  • Additionally, the Einstein-Hilbert action is mentioned as invariant under general coordinate transformations, but the Einstein equations of motion are described as covariant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the invariance of equations of motion under gauge transformations, with some asserting invariance and others maintaining that they are only covariant. No consensus is reached on this issue.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the distinction between invariance and covariance, particularly in the context of different physical theories, but does not resolve the implications of these terms in specific cases.

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We know that all actions are invariant under their gauge transformations. Are the equations of motion also invariant under the gauge transformations?

If yes, can you show a mathematical proof (instead of just saying in words)?
 
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Yes. Since the action is the same the path of least action is also the same.
 
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No, in general they are just covariant. For electrodynamics the equations of motion are invariant under gauge transformations, but for Yang-Mills theories they are just covariant. Similarly, the Einstein-Hilbert action is invariant under general coordinate transformations, but the Einstein equation of motion is just covariant.
 
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Demystifier said:
No, in general they are just covariant. For electrodynamics the equations of motion are invariant under gauge transformations, but for Yang-Mills theories they are just covariant. Similarly, the Einstein-Hilbert action is invariant under general coordinate transformations, but the Einstein equation of motion is just covariant.
Thanks!
 
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