Are gravitational waves relativistic or Newtonian phenomenon?

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The discussion centers on the nature of gravitational waves, questioning whether they can be explained through Newtonian mechanics or if they are strictly a relativistic phenomenon as suggested by general relativity. Participants argue that gravitational waves, unlike gravitational interactions in Newtonian mechanics, represent energy loss from orbiting bodies, which is not accounted for in Newtonian physics. The analogy to electromagnetic waves is explored, emphasizing that electromagnetic theory is inherently relativistic, while Newtonian gravity lacks the necessary framework for wave-like solutions. The conversation also touches on the implications of gravitational waves for theories of cosmic inflation, suggesting that claims linking the two may be overstated. Overall, the consensus leans towards the view that gravitational waves are fundamentally a relativistic effect.
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Today, all of the scientific world (including /r/physics) buzzes about BICEP2's discovery of gravitational waves dating from Big Bang as an undispute confirmation of the general relativity. Now I wonder is it really GR? Can't it be explained by simple Newton's mechanics?
I mean if you can explain electromagnetic waves as as a consequence of accelerating charge then sure you can expalain gravitational waves as a consequence of the accelerating mass.
 
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pero2912 said:
I mean if you can explain electromagnetic waves as as a consequence of accelerating charge then sure you can expalain gravitational waves as a consequence of the accelerating mass.
Surely not. Gravitation is instantaneous in Newtonian mechanics. There is nothing in the Newtonian description of gravity that allows for gravitational waves.

Another way to look at it: Gravitational waves represent energy lost to the universe by orbiting bodies. This doesn't happen in Newtonian mechanics, where gravitationally orbiting bodies conserve energy and angular momentum.
 
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Is there any intuitive analogy to the EM fields in gravity? I mean, in EM you have two fields, magnetic and electric where one's change produces other's. Is it something similar in GE?
 
I believe I shouldn't be asking a question under another question but... since the discovery of g waves was brought up...I didn't see the point in opening another thread. My question is this: Why is the discovery of gravitational waves being considered irrefutable proof for the theory of inflation? Are other theory's that include g waves now considered validated? (fecetious) tia
 
pero2912 said:
I mean if you can explain electromagnetic waves as as a consequence of accelerating charge then sure you can expalain gravitational waves as a consequence of the accelerating mass.

EM is a relativistic theory, not a Newtonian theory. The field theory needs to predict wave equations for the fields to satisfy (e.g. in vacuum) in order for wave-like solutions to exist for the theory. EM does this but Newtonian gravity does not.
 
I don't think the primary source claims anything about proving inflation, so anything to that extent is probably added by bloggers.
 
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