Programs Are Older Grad Students and PhDs Successful in Physics Programs?

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The discussion centers around the experiences and perceptions of older students, particularly those over 30, pursuing graduate degrees in physics. Participants share that many successful graduate students and professionals in physics are indeed over 30, often bringing valuable life experience and maturity to their studies. Concerns about age discrimination in academia, especially regarding postdoctoral positions and faculty hiring, are addressed, with some arguing that maturity can be an asset rather than a hindrance. The challenges of balancing family responsibilities, financial stability, and the demands of graduate school are highlighted, as older students may face different pressures compared to younger peers. Additionally, the conversation touches on the societal perceptions of age in academia, suggesting that while age can be a factor in hiring decisions, it is often overshadowed by qualifications and performance. Overall, the consensus is that older students can and do succeed in graduate programs, despite the unique challenges they may face.
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wow, a professorship is so difficult. I am one of those planning to give it a try for a professorship (in Economics, Industrial Eng, OR, or Civil Eng.). Probably, I will try in 2012-2013, but I'll consider private sector, too. No point in putting all my eggs in one basket.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
There are non-tenure track teaching positions. They pay poorly, there is no job security, and you might not get hired until the week before the term starts.

In general, yes, this is true. However, my husband is officially an adjunct--he stayed put so I could do my PhD program. Unlike most low-level adjunct positions, his does come with benefits (e.g. health insurance and pension plan). It doesn't pay nearly as well as a full prof gig--only about $72K/year--but $72K/year isn't exactly minimum wage.

ETA: My husband teaches one course per term; the rest of the time, he does research. Again, he has an atypical arrangement, but it could be way worse.
 
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Pyrrhus said:
wow, a professorship is so difficult. I am one of those planning to give it a try for a professorship (in Economics, Industrial Eng, OR, or Civil Eng.).

You and about half the other PhDs in America...

Seriously, though. For every one tenure-track job opening, you can count on 400 qualified applicants applying for it (I have many friends and colleagues on hiring committees who can vouch for this number). One of my colleagues is a math prof at a Cal State school--not exactly prestigious. This year, they got over 1,000 applications for the one tenure-track prof job in their department.
 
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Geezer said:
Seriously, though. For every one tenure-track job opening, you can count on 400 qualified applicants applying for it (I have many friends and colleagues on hiring committees who can vouch for this number).

A lot depends on the field. People with Ph.D.'s in finance or economics from a big name university are pretty much guaranteed a tenure track position once they get the Ph.D. The catch is that the admission rates to those programs are tiny.
 

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