Are Photons Vibrations or a Separate Entity in Light Transmission?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of photons and their relationship to vibrations and transport mediums in light transmission. Participants explore whether photons are vibrations themselves or if vibrations serve as a medium for light, as well as the implications of these ideas in the context of electromagnetic fields and the propagation of light through various environments.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether photons are vibrations or if vibrations are merely a transport medium for light, suggesting that the concept of vibration implies a medium that does not exist for light.
  • Others argue that the electromagnetic field serves as the medium for light, asserting that photons do not require matter to travel through and can propagate through a vacuum.
  • There are claims that photons do not bend but rather their paths bend in a gravitational field, with some participants emphasizing the role of the electromagnetic field in this context.
  • Some participants express confusion about the nature of "matter" and its relationship to light, questioning whether light can travel through a vacuum without any medium.
  • One participant mentions that vacuum fluctuations and virtual particles are often misunderstood, asserting that true vacuum contains nothing and does not impede the propagation of electromagnetic fields.
  • Another viewpoint emphasizes the complexity of understanding photons, suggesting that a foundational grasp of electromagnetic fields is necessary before delving into the concept of photons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the nature of photons and their relationship to vibrations and mediums. Multiple competing views remain, particularly regarding the necessity of a medium for light and the interpretation of electromagnetic fields.

Contextual Notes

Some statements reflect a reliance on classical physics versus quantum field theory, indicating that the discussion may be limited by participants' varying levels of understanding and the complexity of the concepts involved.

  • #61
ZapperZ said:
It was an example of what, your inability to comprehend the scenario?

Zz.

There was no question in your post
 
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itallcomestoenergy said:
Okey, so the medium is vacuum.

No. There is no medium.

What about sound waves? They operate in a lower frequency,

No. Sound waves are vibrations of a medium.
 
  • #63
Mister T said:
No. There is no medium.
No. Sound waves are vibrations of a medium.
Yes, and the medium is particles in the air, water or more solid matter.
 
  • #64
itallcomestoenergy said:
Vibrating is something that operates as a wave. The simplest form of wave is a sine(?)
Not all waves are vibrations and not all vibrations are waves. They are two different things that you are trying to mix up here.

At this point I am closing this thread. You seem to have some sort of weird “vibration” agenda. We are neither interested in helping you promote your agenda nor in the Sisyphean task of arguing about it. Please be aware that all posts must be consistent with the professional scientific literature.
 
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