Are there 2 correct answers to this transformer homework problem?

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The discussion centers on a transformer homework problem where both Answer A and Answer B are initially considered correct, but further analysis reveals that only Answer A is valid. Answer A increases the current through the primary coil, leading to increased power in the secondary and a lower voltage V2. In contrast, Answer B incorrectly suggests that increasing the n1/n2 ratio would increase deflection, while it actually decreases V2 for a constant primary voltage. The conversation also explores the function of galvanometers, clarifying that they measure current and have some internal resistance, which complicates the ideal transformer scenario. Ultimately, the consensus is that reducing the number of turns in the secondary results in a lower current when short-circuited, contradicting initial assumptions.
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Below is my corrected equations##N_1I_1+N_2I_2 = \chi_1~ \phi_1 + \chi_2~ \phi_2 ~~~~~,~~~~~N_1I_1 = \chi_1~ \phi_1 + \chi_3~ \phi_3
~~~~~,~~~~~\phi_3 =\phi_1-\phi_2##

##\phi_1 = \frac {V_1} {N_1J\omega} ~~~~,~~~~ \phi_2 = \frac { \chi_3 \left(\frac {V_1} {N_1 } \right) }
{J\omega ( \chi_2+ \chi_3) + \frac {(\omega N_2)^2} {R} } ~~~~,~~~~ \phi_3 = \left[ \frac {1}{J\omega} - \frac { \chi_3 } {J\omega ( \chi_2+ \chi_3) + \frac {(\omega N_2)^2} {R} } \right]\frac {V_1 } {N_1 }##

##I_1 = \left[ \frac {\chi_1+\chi_3}{N_1J\omega} - \frac { \frac {(\chi_3)^2} {N_1} } {J\omega ( \chi_2 + \chi_3) + \frac {(\omega N_2)^2} {R} } \right]\frac {V_1 } {N_1 }~~~~,~~~~I_2= \frac { j\omega\chi_3 \left(\frac {N_2} {N_1 } \right) V_1} { J\omega ( \chi_2+ \chi_3) {R}+ (\omega N_2)^2}##where
##\chi_3 = \chi_{3c} + \chi_{3g} ##
## \chi_{3c}= \text {reluctance of the magnetic core segment}##
##\chi_{3g} = \text {reluctance of the air gap segment}##
 
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For the expression equation of ##I_1##, after some algebraic manipulation, the following results can be obtained.

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I originally just solved for ## i_2 ## in terms of ## i_1 ##. See post 25. I now have also solved for ## \phi_1 ## in terms of ## i_1 ##, and then for ## i_1 ## in terms of ## v_1 ##. It took a little work, but I am now in agreement with @alan123hk 's ## i_1 ##.

When I did this additional calculation, I made an algebraic error, that caused my ## i_ 1## result to be in error. I finally located the error. (I had incorrectly copied onto my next page an ##X_1 ## that was an ## X_2##. It caused my final result for ## i_1 ## in terms of ## v_1 ## to contain numerous errors. ). One factor that may still differ is the sign of ## v_ 1 ## or ## i_1 ## or ## v_2 ## or ## i_2 ## relative to the other variables. The reader is free to call either direction of the windings as positive, but other than a matter of sign of this kind, we are now in complete agreement. :)

Meanwhile, good job, @alan123hk :), and also for post 31 above.

additional note, so the reader may follow more easily: For the last ten posts we have been working the problem shown in the "link" of post 23, which is closely related to the OP's original problem. Note also in looking at the result of post 25 for ## i_2 ## in terms of ## i_1 ##, and also post 31 where for large ##X_3 ##,(which makes it into an ordinary transformer), ##i_2=\frac{N_2 v_1}{N_1 R} ##. We do see the behavior of ## i_2 ## as ## N_2 ## decreases depends on whether ## i_1 ## is specified , or if ## v_1 ## is specified, as pointed out in post 17. See also post 24, conclusion (1) .
 
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Thank you so much for your replies everybody that helps a lot!
 
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