Are there comprehensive chemistry textbooks for college level students?

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The discussion centers around the search for comprehensive chemistry textbooks suitable for college-level students, particularly those transitioning from high school to university. Participants explore various recommendations for textbooks across different branches of chemistry, including general, physical, organic, inorganic, quantum, and analytical chemistry.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks recommendations for comprehensive chemistry textbooks similar to a physics book they referenced.
  • Another participant clarifies the terminology around "college" and "university" in the US context.
  • Some participants suggest that for a chemistry major, specialized books on individual topics are necessary for in-depth study, rather than a single comprehensive text.
  • Recommended authors for physical chemistry include Ira Levine and Peter Atkins, with specific titles mentioned for various subfields.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about using a single general text for physical chemistry, suggesting that specialized texts are more effective.
  • Several specific textbooks are recommended for different areas of chemistry, including works by Claydon, Housecroft, McQuarrie, and others.
  • There is mention of the need for books on additional topics like computational chemistry, biochemistry, and material science, indicating that the list of recommendations is not exhaustive.
  • Some participants suggest that general chemistry textbooks suitable for introductory courses include works by Petrucci and Mortimer, as well as Brown and LeMay.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for specialized textbooks for different chemistry topics, but there is no consensus on a single comprehensive textbook that covers all areas effectively. Multiple competing views on the best resources remain present throughout the discussion.

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Participants express varying levels of familiarity with certain topics, and some acknowledge gaps in their knowledge regarding specific areas of chemistry, such as quantum chemistry and kinetics.

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This discussion may be useful for college students, educators, and anyone interested in finding appropriate chemistry textbooks for undergraduate studies across various chemistry disciplines.

Tio Barnabe
I need good books covering the chemistry in the college period. (Not sure if this is the correct name. Just take it to be the period after which one goes to the university.)

Any suggestions?

In physics we have this book https://www.amazon.com/dp/0321973615/?tag=pfamazon01-20
which covers physics from the most basic to the undergraduate level. Is there any similar in Chemistry?
 
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Tio Barnabe said:
college period. (Not sure if this is the correct name. Just take it to be the period after which one goes to the university.)
In the US, "college" and "university" both refer to undergraduate institutions (bachelor's degree level). Generally, the most important difference between them is size. Colleges are usually smaller than universities, and usually don't offer master's and doctor's degrees. The period before college or university is called "high school".
 
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In college, for chemistry major, you need book(s) on each topic in Chemistry rather than the whole subject, otherwise you won't be able to study it in depth.

I'll recommend either Ira Levine or Peter Atkins for Physical Chemistry. Ira Levine also has a book on Molecular Spectroscopy.
 
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Tio Barnabe said:
I need good books covering the chemistry in the college period. (Not sure if this is the correct name. Just take it to be the period after which one goes to the university.)

Any suggestions?

In physics we have this book https://www.amazon.com/dp/0321973615/?tag=pfamazon01-20
which covers physics from the most basic to the undergraduate level. Is there any similar in Chemistry?

Claydon for organic chemistry : https://www.amazon.com/dp/0199270295/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Housecroft for inorganic chemistry : https://www.amazon.com/dp/0273742752/?tag=pfamazon01-20

McQuarrie and Simon for general physical chemistry https://www.amazon.com/dp/0935702997/?tag=pfamazon01-20

In physical chemistry I don't recommend using a single general text, it's like learning Algebra and Analysis from same text, you know it is not going to pan out well. Besides that General physical chemistry texts tend to be bit bad at everything as compared to specialise text. I recommend learning each main topic from specialise texts.

Thermodynamics : Schroeder thermal physics https://www.amazon.com/dp/0201380277/?tag=pfamazon01-20

I like this because it is short and had thermochemistry questions.

Quantum chemistry : ... no idea, I would recommend a general Quantum mechanics book but others here can do a better job.

Statistical mechanics : McQuarrie, Statistical Mechanics https://www.amazon.com/dp/1891389157/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Kinetics : Chemical Kinetics by Houston https://www.amazon.com/dp/0486453340/?tag=pfamazon01-20

I don't know much on kinetics to be honest.

Lastly,

Analytical chemistry by Douglas https://www.amazon.com/dp/0495558281/?tag=pfamazon01-20 (an incredibly boring subject imo !)

This is the only book I know and I like it. Try others and see what fits best for you.

This list certainly not complete, I missed things like computational chemistry, biochemistry, material science, solid state chemistry, fluid mechanics and many more.
 
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Quantum chemistry : ... no idea, I would recommend a general Quantum mechanics book but others here can do a better job
Quantum Chemistry by Ira Levine is a very good book.
 
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Tio Barnabe said:
I need good books covering the chemistry in the college period. (Not sure if this is the correct name. Just take it to be the period after which one goes to the university.)

Any suggestions?

In physics we have this book https://www.amazon.com/dp/0321973615/?tag=pfamazon01-20
which covers physics from the most basic to the undergraduate level. Is there any similar in Chemistry?
This could mean your asking for books on General Chemistry as one would find a community colleges, and as the first REAL Chemistry course for science students in a university. Many years ago, a couple of mainstream General Chemistry book authors were Petrucci, and Mortimer.
 
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Tio Barnabe said:
I need good books covering the chemistry in the college period. (Not sure if this is the correct name. Just take it to be the period after which one goes to the university.)

Any suggestions?

In physics we have this book https://www.amazon.com/dp/0321973615/?tag=pfamazon01-20
which covers physics from the most basic to the undergraduate level. Is there any similar in Chemistry?

If you want something at a similar level to Young and Freedman, I recommend any edition of Brown and LeMay from, say, 7th on. Used copies of the 12th edition: "Chemistry, The Central Science, 12th ed.," for example, are quite reasonably priced. https://www.amazon.com/dp/0321696727/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
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Thank you to everyone. I will look up for these books.
 
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