Are There Inflection Points for the Curve 1/x - 1/(x-1)?

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The discussion revolves around identifying inflection points and intervals of concavity for the curve defined by the equation 1/x - 1/(x-1). Participants explore the implications of the second derivative and its relationship to concavity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to find inflection points by calculating the second derivative and equating it to zero, expressing difficulty in solving the resulting equation. They also question the existence of inflection points based on graphical observations.
  • Some participants discuss the properties of inverse functions and their implications for points of inflection, questioning whether the second derivative can equal zero or infinity.
  • There is a mention of using the Quadratic Formula to analyze the results of the second derivative, leading to a discussion about the nature of the roots and their implications for the existence of inflection points.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different mathematical approaches and reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the properties of inverse functions and the analysis of the second derivative, but no consensus has been reached regarding the existence of inflection points.

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There are discussions about the complexity of the second derivative and the implications of imaginary roots, which may affect the understanding of concavity and inflection points. The original poster's initial assumptions about concavity have evolved during the discussion.

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Homework Statement


The question is: Find the Inflection Point(s) and Intervals of concavity for the curve

Homework Equations


Equation of Curve: 1/x - 1/(x-1)

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Ok so to find the Inflection point, we have been taught to find the second derivative of the equation, equate it to zero then solve for x. Ok so I tried this and I just can't seem to solve for X, the equation becomes enormous and unruly and I just don't know how to solve it. Anyways, I was looking at the graph and I couldn't see anywhere that would be an inflection point. So my question is, is there even any inflection points on this graph, and if the answer is no, then does that mean that there are no intervals of concavity as well?

Edit: Scratch what I said about no concavity, I think just by looking at the graph that it is Concave down when: x<0, x>1 and it it Concave up when: 0<x<1. However, my question about there being no inflection point still stands.
Thanks in advance =D
 
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Well, it is a function of an inverse function (however more complicated), and since it is the summation of two inverse functions, they will retain the properties of the inverse functions, no?

Inverse functions have no Points of Inflection equal to 0. Depending on your definition, most people would define it as when the second derivative equals zero or infinity. Well, look at your second derivative:

y'' = 2/x^3 - 2/(x-1)^3

Is there anyway that these two equations can ever equal each other and cancel out to zero or infinity?

1/x^3 = 1/(x-1)^3

What's logical now? Flip them.

x^3 = (x - 1) ^3

This is some complex foiling, but if you recall your Newton's Binomial Theorem and Pascal's Triangle, it isn't too bad.

x^3 = x^3 - x^2 + x - 1

This should be obvious. =P

0 = -x^2 + x - 1

You'll need the Quadratic Formula:

0= -(x^2 - x + 1)

(1 +- sqrt(-3))/2 deals with imaginary numbers, therefore the root DNE.

So, there is no PoI for this function.
 
Wow I pretty much love you right now haha, thanks a lot for your help. I don't really know what I was doing when I was trying to find the second derivative, your way was much much better. You explained it very well, you should be a teacher or somthing lol. Anyways, thanks again =D
 
GoldPheonix said:
Well, it is a function of an inverse function (however more complicated), and since it is the summation of two inverse functions, they will retain the properties of the inverse functions, no?

Inverse functions have no Points of Inflection equal to 0. Depending on your definition, most people would define it as when the second derivative equals zero or infinity. Well, look at your second derivative:

y'' = 2/x^3 - 2/(x-1)^3

Is there anyway that these two equations can ever equal each other and cancel out to zero or infinity?

1/x^3 = 1/(x-1)^3

What's logical now? Flip them.

x^3 = (x - 1) ^3

This is some complex foiling, but if you recall your Newton's Binomial Theorem and Pascal's Triangle, it isn't too bad.

x^3 = x^3 - x^2 + x - 1

This should be obvious. =P
I hope it's not obvious! Using Pascal's triangle, as you say,
(x-1)3= x3- 3x2+ 3x- 1.

0 = -x^2 + x - 1

You'll need the Quadratic Formula:

0= -(x^2 - x + 1)

(1 +- sqrt(-3))/2 deals with imaginary numbers, therefore the root DNE.

So, there is no PoI for this function.

From x3= (x-1)3= x3- 3x2+ 3x- 1 you get 3x2- 3x+ 1= 0.
 

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