Are These Statements About Subsets of Vector Spaces True or False?

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The discussion revolves around properties of spans in the context of subsets of vector spaces, specifically examining statements related to the span of unions and intersections of sets. The subject area is linear algebra.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to evaluate the truth of several statements regarding spans, providing a counterexample for one of the statements. Participants discuss the meanings of set operations and the implications of their definitions on the problem.

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Participants are exploring the validity of the statements with some providing counterexamples and clarifications. There is an ongoing examination of the definitions of vector sum and set union, with some guidance offered on how to apply these concepts to the problem.

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There is a mention of confusion regarding the notation used for union and vector sum, as well as the need for clarity on the definitions of spans and set operations in this context.

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i'm not sure if I'm posting this in the right place, so forgive me if I'm wrong! in my linear algebra revision i found that I'm struggling with one of the questions:
Let S and T be subsets of a vector space, V. Which of the following statements are true? Give a proof or a counterexample.
a) Sp(S n T)=Sp(S) n Sp(T)
b) Sp(S u T)=Sp(S) u Sp(T)
c) Sp(S u T)=Sp(S) + Sp(T)

For a) I've said its false, and my counter-example is S={(1,0)} and T={(0,1)} for R^2. But then I get LHS= Span of the empty set? Is this correct?
and from the answers i know that b)is false and c)is true but i have no idea how to prove this.

also just in general, what is the difference between "+" and "u" in this situation?

Any help would be appreciated! thank you!
 
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'+' here means vector sum. x is in A+B if x=a+b, where a is in A and b is in B. Your first counterexample is fine. 'u' is set union. Try applying the same S and T as in part a) in part b).
 
well if i tried it for b)

LHS = sp((1,0)u(0,1)) = the x-axis or the y axis..?
RHS= sp(1,0) u sp(0,1) = the x-axis or the y axis
so they're the same?
 
rainbowed said:
well if i tried it for b)

LHS = sp((1,0)u(0,1)) = the x-axis or the y axis..?
RHS= sp(1,0) u sp(0,1) = the x-axis or the y axis
so they're the same?

Wrong on the LHS. (1,0)u(0,1) doesn't make any sense. You union sets, not vectors. Write that as SuT={(1,0)}u{(0,1)}={(1,0),(0,1)}, i.e. a set with two elements. What's the definition of 'sp'? Look it up if you have to.
 
By the way, Sp(0, 1)\cup Sp(1, 0) is NOT empty- it is the 0 vector. The intersection of two vector spaces is always a vector space.
 

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