Are These Vectors Linearly Dependent?

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The discussion revolves around determining if the given vectors are linearly dependent by solving a system of equations derived from scalar multiples of the vectors. The user initially sets up three equations but is informed that only two are independent due to equivalence. Through elimination, it is shown that the solutions can be expressed in terms of one variable, leading to a one-dimensional vector space. Specific solutions are provided as examples, demonstrating the relationship between the variables. Ultimately, the equations confirm that the vectors are indeed linearly dependent.
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So I set the scalar multiples of a, b, and c as x,y,z

so i had 3 equations

4x-4y+4z=0
-4x+4y-4z=0
-2x-4y-5z=0

i tried solving it numerous times each time trying to use a different x value, but i cannot get it. Did I even do it correctly up to the point where i get my 3 equations?

Thanks for any help
 
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The equations are correct. Notice the first and second equations are equivalent so you'll only really use the second and third equation and will get an undetermined solution.
Write x and y as functions of z for, example. You will hopefully arrive at a solution where (3/2)*a + (1/2)*b - 1*c = 0.
 
doctordiddy said:

Homework Statement



http://imgur.com/P9udvTs

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



So I set the scalar multiples of a, b, and c as x,y,z

so i had 3 equations

4x-4y+4z=0
-4x+4y-4z=0
The second equation is just -1 times the first so you really have just two equations.

-2x-4y-5z=0

i tried solving it numerous times each time trying to use a different x value, but i cannot get it. Did I even do it correctly up to the point where i get my 3 equations?

Thanks for any help
"get it"? What are you trying to get? What do you mean by "use a different x value"?

As said, you really just have two equations: 4x- 4y+ 4z= 0 and -2x- 4y- 5z= 0.
If you subtract the second equation from the first, you eliminate y leaving 6x+ 9z= 0 so that 9z= -6z and then z= -(2/3)x. Putting that back into the first equation 4x- 4y+ 4(-(2/3)x)= 4x- 4y- (8/3)x= (4/3)x- 4y= 0 so that 4y= (4/3)x and then y= (1/3)x.

That is, for any value of x, y= (1/3)x and z= -(2/3)x is a solution. x= 3, y= 1, z= -2 is one solution, x= 6, y= 2, z= -4 is another. The set of all solutions to this system of equations forms a one-dimensional vector space.
 
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