The discussion centers around the portrayal of villains in movies, particularly the distinction between traditional bad guys and those who are victims of circumstance. It highlights the appeal of characters like the Sith, who embody a struggle with their darker nature, contrasting with the Jedi's moral rigidity. The conversation explores how narratives often depict villains as having once been good, raising questions about audience sympathy and cultural differences in storytelling, particularly between American and British films. The preference for happy endings in American cinema is contrasted with the acceptance of darker conclusions in British films. The notion of balance in the Force is debated, with opinions on whether the presence of a Sith inherently disrupts this balance. Ultimately, the discussion reflects on the complexities of morality in character development and the allure of rooting for the underdog, even when they are portrayed as villains.
. anyhoo, bad guys who try to be good guys but can't get a break don't really change after being bad guys. then after the break for some reason things always spin out of control 'in the movies', but some of the audience wants to see the bad guy win knowing he was not a bad guy to begin with. one thing is for sure when you take someone to a few of the right movies and ask some questions you'll where they stand on pretty much everything.
