Area Between Two Curves (Sin and Cos)

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The discussion revolves around finding the area between two curves defined by the equations y = 7 cos 3x and y = 7 sin 6x, within the interval from x = 0 to x = π/6. Participants are tasked with sketching the regions enclosed by these curves and determining the area between them.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the need to find the intersection points of the curves to establish limits for integration. There is uncertainty about how to solve for these intersection points by hand, with some expressing reliance on graphing calculators. Questions arise regarding the methods to set the equations equal and apply trigonometric identities.

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Several participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their attempts and seeking clarification on the methods to find intersection points. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of trigonometric identities, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the constraints of not being allowed to use calculators in their university calculus classes, which adds to the challenge of solving the problem by hand.

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Homework Statement


Sketch the regions enclosed by the given curves. And determine the area between the curves.
y = 7 cos 3x, y = 7 sin 6x, x = 0, x = π/6

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



Okay so i ended up solving the question, because i used the help of my graphing calculator. To get the area between the two curves you need the intersection point between the two curves so that you can determine the limits of integration for the two integrals. However, i have no idea how you solve for the intersection point of those two trigonometric functions by hand. Maybe its really easy, and i am just having a dumb moment, but i needed to use my calculator to get it and of course you can't use calculators in university calc classes (or at least in mine). Someone pleaseee explain how to do this by hand if you can :)
 
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Jet1045 said:

Homework Statement


Sketch the regions enclosed by the given curves. And determine the area between the curves.
y = 7 cos 3x, y = 7 sin 6x, x = 0, x = π/6
...

The Attempt at a Solution



Okay so i ended up solving the question, because i used the help of my graphing calculator. To get the area between the two curves you need the intersection point between the two curves so that you can determine the limits of integration for the two integrals. However, i have no idea how you solve for the intersection point of those two trigonometric functions by hand. Maybe its really easy, and i am just having a dumb moment, but i needed to use my calculator to get it and of course you can't use calculators in university calc classes (or at least in mine). Someone pleaseee explain how to do this by hand if you can :)
(My spell checker said that you spelled 'please' incorrectly.)
Can you give the equation you would use to solve for the point of intersection?
 
Jet1045 said:

Homework Statement


Sketch the regions enclosed by the given curves. And determine the area between the curves.
y = 7 cos 3x, y = 7 sin 6x, x = 0, x = π/6



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Okay so i ended up solving the question, because i used the help of my graphing calculator. To get the area between the two curves you need the intersection point between the two curves so that you can determine the limits of integration for the two integrals. However, i have no idea how you solve for the intersection point of those two trigonometric functions by hand. Maybe its really easy, and i am just having a dumb moment, but i needed to use my calculator to get it and of course you can't use calculators in university calc classes (or at least in mine). Someone pleaseee explain how to do this by hand if you can :)

To find the intersection point, set 7cos3x = 7sin6x, or simply cos3x = sin6x, since the sevens cancel out.

Then observe that sin6x = sin(2*3x), and use the double-angle formula for sine. Can you go from here?
 
Curious3141 said:
To find the intersection point, set 7cos3x = 7sin6x, or simply cos3x = sin6x, since the sevens cancel out.

Then observe that sin6x = sin(2*3x), and use the double-angle formula for sine. Can you go from here?

OHH i didnt know it would be that complicated, i thought you could just set them equal to each other and there would be something obvious that i was just missing. K i will look up the double angle formula cause i have totally forgotten that stuff from high school. Thanks though :)
 
Jet1045 said:
OHH i didnt know it would be that complicated, i thought you could just set them equal to each other and there would be something obvious that i was just missing. K i will look up the double angle formula cause i have totally forgotten that stuff from high school. Thanks though :)

Let me help you out: sin2θ = 2sinθcosθ.

Now put θ=3x.
 
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Hello amjaskaran. Welcome to PF !

Use the "new topic" button in the appropriate Homework section, such as 'Calculus & Beyond', or 'Pre-Calculus', or 'Introductory Physics', etc.
 

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