Area of Largest Rectangle in 1st Quadrant of y=4-x^2

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The problem involves finding the area of the largest rectangle with sides parallel to the axes in the first quadrant under the curve defined by the equation y=4-x^2. There is a discussion about the correct formulation of the area and the critical points for maximizing it.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the formulation of the area and the use of derivatives to find critical points. There are questions about the correctness of the area calculation and the interpretation of the results. Some participants express confusion regarding the values provided in the book and the original poster's calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing with participants providing guidance on checking the area formula and derivative calculations. There is acknowledgment of mistakes made in the interpretation of the problem, and some participants are clarifying the correct approach to finding the maximum area.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential confusion due to the problem being previously encountered in a different context (upper half plane), which may have influenced participants' reasoning. The discussion also highlights the importance of verifying critical points for maximum or minimum values.

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Homework Statement



area of largest rectangle with sides parallel to axes (1st quad) under y=4-x^2

The Attempt at a Solution



x(4-x^2)

Area ` = (4-3x^2)

x=0 and sqrt(4/3)

The book says 4/3 (1.15) is wrong and that 3.08 is correct, how is this possible?
 
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Always draw a diagram whenever possible. Your area formula isn't quite correct. Moreover, your derivative isn't correct (either use the product rule, or first expand your formula for the area and then differentiate). But most importantly, once you find critical points always check to see if your critical points are indeed max/mins via either the first or second derivative test!
 
fitz_calc said:

Homework Statement



area of largest rectangle with sides parallel to axes (1st quad) under y=4-x^2

The Attempt at a Solution



x(4-x^2)

Area ` = (4-3x^2)

x=0 and sqrt(4/3)

The book says 4/3 (1.15) is wrong and that 3.08 is correct, how is this possible?
Why would you think (4/3)(1.15) would be correct? For [itex]x= \sqrt{4/3}[/itex], that is (x2)(x), NOT x(4- x2).

rs1n, perhaps the original post has been edited since you saw it but that IS the correct area (since the rectangle is only in the first quadrant) and the derivative is correct. He got the correct value for x but then calculated the area incorrectly.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Why would you think (4/3)(1.15) would be correct? For [itex]x= \sqrt{4/3}[/itex], that is (x2)(x), NOT x(4- x2).

rs1n, perhaps the original post has been edited since you saw it but that IS the correct area (since the rectangle is only in the first quadrant) and the derivative is correct. He got the correct value for x but then calculated the area incorrectly.

No, I was quite mistaken (because I've used this problem on an exam before, but with the upper half plane, and just assumed it was the same :-). Thank you for pointing out my mistake. You are also correct in pointing out that his derivative is correct. Wow, what a lapse in thinking for me on this one!
 

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