Arithmetic Progression - show that question

AI Thread Summary
To show that \(\frac{1}{b+c}, \frac{1}{c+a}, \frac{1}{a+b}\) are in arithmetic progression given that \(a^2, b^2, c^2\) are in arithmetic progression, it is sufficient to verify that \(\frac{1}{a+c} - \frac{1}{b+c} = \frac{1}{a+b} - \frac{1}{a+c}\). This simplifies to the equation \((b-a)(a+b)(a+c) = (c-b)(a+c)(b+c)\), which aligns with the condition \(b^2 - a^2 = c^2 - b^2\). The ordering \(a < b < c\) ensures that \(b+c > c+a > a+b\), confirming the sequence's order. The solution effectively demonstrates the relationship between the terms and their respective arithmetic progressions.
trollcast
Gold Member
Messages
282
Reaction score
13

Homework Statement



Given that a2, b2 and c 2 are in arithmetic progression show that:

$$\frac{1}{b+c} , \frac{1}{c+a} , \frac{1}{a+b} $$

,are also in arthimetic progression.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



So I assume by "in arithmetic progression" they mean those are 3 consecutive terms but we can't assume that a2 is the first term?

Then,

$$ b^{2} = a^{2} + d \\ c^2 = b^2 + d \\ c^2 = a^2 + 2d \\ d = b^{2} - a^{2} \\ d = c^{2} - b^{2}$$

However I can't seem to get anything close to what the questions asking me as when I tried solving that set equations I kept on getting equations that just canceled out to 0 as both the sides worked out to be the same?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
You can assume a < b < c. It follows that b+c > a+b > a+c, so you know what order the second sequence will be in.
Try it from the other end. Look at differences between consecutive terms of the second sequence, and take the difference of the differences.
 
trollcast said:

Homework Statement



Given that a2, b2 and c 2 are in arithmetic progression show that:

$$\frac{1}{b+c} , \frac{1}{c+a} , \frac{1}{a+b} $$

,are also in arthimetic progression.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



So I assume by "in arithmetic progression" they mean those are 3 consecutive terms but we can't assume that a2 is the first term?

Then,

$$ b^{2} = a^{2} + d \\ c^2 = b^2 + d \\ c^2 = a^2 + 2d \\ d = b^{2} - a^{2} \\ d = c^{2} - b^{2}$$

However I can't seem to get anything close to what the questions asking me as when I tried solving that set equations I kept on getting equations that just canceled out to 0 as both the sides worked out to be the same?
I would mess around with ##\displaystyle \ \frac{1}{b+c} , \frac{1}{c+a} , \frac{1}{a+b} \ ## just to see if I could find some connection with the squares of a, b, and c .

Although, it doesn't give an ordering, I would assume a < b < c .

Then c+b > c+a > b+a, so that ##\displaystyle \ \frac{1}{b+c}<\frac{1}{c+a}< \frac{1}{a+b} \ .##
 
Found a similar problem on google but don't understand why they added (ab+ac+bc) to it although it does work.

$$a^2,b^2,c^2 \\
a^2+(ab+ac+bc),b^2+(ab+ac+bc),c^2+(ab+ac+bc) \\
a^2+ab+ac+bc,b^2+ab+ac+bc,c^2+ab+ac+bc \\
(a+b)(a+c),(b+a)(b+c),(c+a)(c+b) \\
\frac{(a+b)(a+c)}{(a+b)(a+c)(b+c)},\frac{(b+a)(b+c)}{(a+b)(a+c)(b+c)},\frac{(c+a)(c+b)}{(a+b)(a+c)(b+c)} \\
∴ \frac{1}{(b+c)},\frac{1}{(a+c)},\frac{1}{(a+b)}
$$
 
Given the a2, b2, c2 makes arithmetic progression that means b2 - a2 = c2 - b2.

For \frac{1}{b+c}, \frac{1}{a+c}, \frac{1}{a+b} to make arithmetic progression it shall be enough to check if \frac{1}{a+c} - \frac{1}{b+c} = \frac{1}{a+b} - \frac{1}{a+c}. Thanks for the ordering already established by previous posts.

And that easily simplifies to (b-a)(a+b)(a+c) = (c-b)(a+c)(b+c). That in turn is b2 - a2 = c2 - b2, which was given.
 
kastelian said:
check if \frac{1}{a+c} - \frac{1}{b+c} = \frac{1}{a+b} - \frac{1}{a+c}.
As suggested in post #2.
 
I tried to combine those 2 formulas but it didn't work. I tried using another case where there are 2 red balls and 2 blue balls only so when combining the formula I got ##\frac{(4-1)!}{2!2!}=\frac{3}{2}## which does not make sense. Is there any formula to calculate cyclic permutation of identical objects or I have to do it by listing all the possibilities? Thanks
Since ##px^9+q## is the factor, then ##x^9=\frac{-q}{p}## will be one of the roots. Let ##f(x)=27x^{18}+bx^9+70##, then: $$27\left(\frac{-q}{p}\right)^2+b\left(\frac{-q}{p}\right)+70=0$$ $$b=27 \frac{q}{p}+70 \frac{p}{q}$$ $$b=\frac{27q^2+70p^2}{pq}$$ From this expression, it looks like there is no greatest value of ##b## because increasing the value of ##p## and ##q## will also increase the value of ##b##. How to find the greatest value of ##b##? Thanks
Back
Top