As for the three body problem (the formula used, and the related areas)

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Newton's Gravitation Law can be expressed in two formulas for the n-body problem: the first involves the third power of the distance in the denominator, while the second uses the square of the distance. The first formula is preferred as it accounts for vector direction, making it suitable for three-dimensional space. When the distance between two bodies is zero, the force is undefined, which complicates the application of these formulas. Textbooks that focus on algebraic methods and symmetries in gravitational problems are recommended, alongside academic papers for deeper exploration. The discussion highlights the importance of vector notation in gravitational equations and the need for clarity in mathematical formulations.
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Could you let me know which formula is Newton's Gravitation Law used for the three body or n body problem in general?

Suppose there are n objects with the masses m_{j}, j=1,2,3,\dots,n and the displacement functions \mathbf{x}_{j}:\mathbb{R}\to\mathbb{R}^{3} with initial conditions of \mathbf{x}_{j}(0),\dot{\mathbf{x}}_{j}(0). Then is the formula

(1) m_{j}\ddot{\mathbf{x}}_{j}=G\sum_{i\neq j}\frac{m_{i}m_{j}(\mathbf{x}_{i}-\mathbf{x}_{j})}{\left|\mathbf{x}_{i}-\mathbf{x}_{j}\right|^{3}}

used, or

(2) m_{j}\ddot{\mathbf{x}}_{j}=G\sum_{i\neq j}\frac{m_{i}m_{j}}{\left|\mathbf{x}_{i}-\mathbf{x}_{j}\right|^{2}}

used?

If the trend is to use (1), then why is it? And what is the trend in defining the formula of Newton's Gravitation Law when \left|\mathbf{x}_{i}-\mathbf{x}_{j}\right|=0?

And is there any textbook (kind graduate or undergraudate textbook level) that teaches this area not by analytical method but by algebraic method, especially focusing on the concept of symmetries? Or should I just find papers to study this area in such a view?

And could you let me know the (mathematical) areas (specifically the names of the areas) that are closely related to this problem?
 
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(2) is limited to one-dimensional cases and for \left|\mathbf{x}_{i}-\mathbf{x}_{j}\right|=0 there is no force
 
julypraise said:
Could you let me know which formula is Newton's Gravitation Law used for the three body or n body problem in general?

Suppose there are n objects with the masses m_{j}, j=1,2,3,\dots,n and the displacement functions \mathbf{x}_{j}:\mathbb{R}\to\mathbb{R}^{3} with initial conditions of \mathbf{x}_{j}(0),\dot{\mathbf{x}}_{j}(0). Then is the formula

(1) m_{j}\ddot{\mathbf{x}}_{j}=G\sum_{i\neq j}\frac{m_{i}m_{j}(\mathbf{x}_{i}-\mathbf{x}_{j})}{\left|\mathbf{x}_{i}-\mathbf{x}_{j}\right|^{3}}

used, or

(2) m_{j}\ddot{\mathbf{x}}_{j}=G\sum_{i\neq j}\frac{m_{i}m_{j}}{\left|\mathbf{x}_{i}-\mathbf{x}_{j}\right|^{2}}

used?

If the trend is to use (1), then why is it? And what is the trend in defining the formula of Newton's Gravitation Law when \left|\mathbf{x}_{i}-\mathbf{x}_{j}\right|=0?

And is there any textbook (kind graduate or undergraudate textbook level) that teaches this area not by analytical method but by algebraic method, especially focusing on the concept of symmetries? Or should I just find papers to study this area in such a view?

And could you let me know the (mathematical) areas (specifically the names of the areas) that are closely related to this problem?

in formula 2, something is missing ( a unit vector along xi-xj) because the summation must be a vector. If you correct it, both formulae become the same becaues the unit vector = (xi-xj)/|xi-xj|
 
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