Attached: Solving Homework Equations

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In summary, the conversation involves solving equations and determining the magnitude and direction of a vector. The equations are squared and added together to find the value of the vector. In some cases, the magnitude of the vector may come out negative, but this is due to the direction of the vector being reversed. In this specific problem, the correct solution is determined by choosing the positive magnitude of the vector.
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Attached. Couple of questions/confirmations:

it should be vbcos(45)i - vbsin(45)j, but this is the same thing as cos(45)=sin(45)
vb should be directed at B
How do you solve equations 1 and 2? Trial and error?
vb/r will always be 5m/s in this case?
 

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Try squaring both sides of 1 and 2 then add the two equations together.
 
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Thanks! Then I get vb^2 = 29 + 20sin(theta).

Plugging sin(theta) = [ vb^2 - 29 ] / 20 into (2) I get two solutions for vb, one being negative. I hope I am correct in saying that this is the one to discard as the magnitude of a vector cannot be negative.

However in a previous problem, the relative velocity magnitude comes out negative in the solution, which doesn't make sense
 
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c0der said:
Thanks! Then I get vb^2 = 29 + 20sin(theta).

Not following how you arrived at that. Squaring eq. 1 should give you:

(0.707vb)2 = 25cos2θ

No substitution into (eq. 2)2 needed. Just add the 2 equations.

However you did it, did you at least get vb = 6.21 m/s?
 
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Yes I got vb = 6.21 or vb = -3.382 from the quadratic. I substituted because there are 2 unknowns there.

When I add the squares of the equations,

vb^2 (cos^2(45) + sin^2(45)) = 25 ( cos^2(theta) + sin^2(theta) ) + 4 + 20*sin(theta)

vb^2 = 29 + 20sin(theta), still 2 unknowns
 
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I guess I should have been clearer.


Sorry, big EDIT:
Before squaring eq. 1, isolate the sinθ on the right-hand side.

Before squaring eq. 2, isolate the cosθ on the right-hand side.


Now you can square them.

Adding the 2 equations gives you sin2θ + cos2θ on the right hand side.

And everyone knows what that is equal to. Now you have a quadratic in vb only.
 
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Excellent, that still works out the same, so I take the positive magnitude.

In other problems such as 12-227, the magnitude of the relative velocity comes out negative. If this is not wrong, this means that the overall sense of direction of the vector needs to be reversed.

In this problem here, we get a quadratic with a negative velocity magnitude. I assume we discard this not because it's negative, but because it's smaller than vb/r as vb = vr + vb/r. Hope this is correct.
 

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