Atwood Machine on a Frictionless Inclined Plane: Components Resolution

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This discussion revolves around an Atwood machine problem involving motion on a frictionless inclined plane. The original poster presents free body diagrams and questions the resolution of force components related to mass m1.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the relationship between the components of gravitational force acting on mass m1, specifically questioning why m1gcosθ and m1gsinθ cannot be interchanged. They also inquire about the implications of changing the angle θ in their analysis.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the definitions and relationships between angles and force components. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of angles in the context of the problem, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach to the force resolution.

Contextual Notes

The original poster references multiple textbooks and advice from their teacher regarding the use of angles in force component analysis, indicating a potential confusion stemming from differing conventions in educational materials.

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This is Atwood machine dealing with motion on a frictionless inclined plane.

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To better visualize the forces involved, i isolated m1 and m2 and drawn free body diagrams for both. For mass m1, there are three concurrent forces, that is, T,m1g,and N, where T is the force in the string because of Tension and N is the normal force of the table on the block. The assumption is m1 accelerates up the plane, which is taken in x direction. Now, the weight m1g is broken down into components. The x component is in the assumed direction of acceleration , and the y component acts perpendicularly to the plane and is balanced by the normal force N.
I have shown the components in the attachment1. My question is
1) why m1gcosθ and m1gsinθ can't be interchanged, as given in my second attachment?
2) what is wrong in changing the angle θ, that lies between m1g and m1gcosθ( first attachment) to between m1gsinθ and m1g?
 

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You can either work with θ or with (90 - θ), the latter angle you can call β. But, of course, you cannot call them both θ in the same problem.
 
But invariably in all the books i referred , the Tension is always balanced by the mgcosθ and not by mgsinθ. My teacher said, that 90 - θ should be the sine component always and θ should be cos component. Is that so?
 
See the attachment.
 

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Oh! Beautifully explained grzz. Thanks a lot. I got it now.
 

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