Atwood Machine: Find M in Terms of m1 & m2

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves an Atwood machine, where the original poster seeks to determine the mass M in terms of m1 and m2 such that the system remains at rest. The context includes the application of Newton's second law and tension in the ropes connecting the masses.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive a relationship between M, m1, and m2 using tension equations and acceleration. They express uncertainty about eliminating variables g and a from their equations. Other participants question the clarity of the setup and suggest solving the equations for the unknowns separately.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with the original poster sharing their attempts and seeking clarification. Some guidance has been offered regarding the approach to solving the equations, but no consensus or resolution has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

There is a request for a diagram to clarify the specific setup of the Atwood machine, indicating that variations in the setup may affect the problem interpretation.

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Homework Statement


In the Atwood’s machine, what should M be, in terms of m1 and m2, so that it doesn’t move?
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Homework Equations


F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


I've set T1=Mg as T1 is the tension of the rope attached to M. m1 and m2 are both connected together by the same rope so I assumed T1=2T2 .
I set up the equations
T2-m1g=m1a
T2-m2g=-m2a (negative due to m1 and m2 moving in opposite directions).
I then added the two together to get
T2=[m1(g+a)+m2(g-a)]/2.
Which, since T1=2T2=Mg, it can be expressed as
M=[m1(g+a)+m2(g-a)]/g (I think).
Which is where I'm stuck now. I'm unsure of how to get rid of g and a in order to have my answer in terms of just m1 and m2. It's probably pretty simple, but I can't quite get it.. It seems as g can be canceled out from the current equation, but I'm not sure about a.
I've tried canceling out the g and then solving for a which gives me
a=M/m1-m2
But upon plugging that in as a, I am unsure of how to proceed.
 
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Please either describe the set-up or post a diagram. Not all Atwood's machines are the same.
 
Right, apologies. I've added a photo.
 
You have 2 linear algebraic equations in two unknowns, T2 and a. Solve for them separately.
 

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