Atwood machine probolem: Apply Lagrangian equations

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The discussion focuses on applying Lagrangian mechanics to analyze the motion of a system involving a uniform circular pulley and two masses (m and 3m). The pulley, with a mass of 2m, allows for free rotation and is frictionless. Key equations derived include the relationship between tension (T), acceleration (a), and gravitational force (Mg). The Lagrangian is established as L = T - V, where T represents kinetic energy and V represents potential energy, leading to the calculation of the Euler-Lagrange equations for determining the system's motion.

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Homework Statement



A uniform circular pulley of mass 2m can rotate freely about its axis of symmetry which is fixed in a horizontal position. Two masses m, 3m are connected by a massless string which passes over the pulley without slipping. The whole system undergoes planar motion with the masses moving vertically . Take the rotation angle of the pulley as generilesed coordinate and obtain Lagrange's equation for the mtoion. deduced upward acceleration.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



3Mdv/dt=3Mg-T

Mdv/dt=T-Mg

deltaH=a*delta(theta)

v_c=v-a*omega

Sigma=T*dr=0

r x Mg(-y-hat)=0

pulley is frictionless.

Seems like the only thing I should do would be to find T which would help me find the acceletion for M.
 
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pentazoid said:

Homework Statement



A uniform circular pulley of mass 2m can rotate freely about its axis of symmetry which is fixed in a horizontal position. Two masses m, 3m are connected by a massless string which passes over the pulley without slipping. The whole system undergoes planar motion with the masses moving vertically . Take the rotation angle of the pulley as generilesed coordinate and obtain Lagrange's equation for the mtoion. deduced upward acceleration.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



3Mdv/dt=3Mg-T

Mdv/dt=T-Mg

deltaH=a*delta(theta)

v_c=v-a*omega

Sigma=T*dr=0

r x Mg(-y-hat)=0

pulley is frictionless.

Seems like the only thing I should do would be to find T which would help me find the acceletion for M.

Shouldn't you be constructing the Lagrangian which is given by

L = T - V

where T is the kinetic energy and V is the potential energy and from this you calculate the Euler-Lagrange equations?
 

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