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The problem involves an Atwood machine scenario where a window-washer and a platform are connected via a pulley system. The discussion focuses on calculating the force required for the window-washer to accelerate himself and the platform, as well as the force exerted when moving at a constant speed.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the force exerted by the window-washer and the tension in the rope, questioning the effect of the pulley on this relationship. There are attempts to clarify the free body diagram and the forces acting on the system.

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Some participants have provided insights into the mechanics of the pulley system, suggesting that the tension in the rope is distributed across multiple points. The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the free body diagram and the forces involved.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of the pulley system on force calculations and are attempting to reconcile their understanding of tension and force in this context.

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A 59-kg window-washer stands on a 17-kg platform. The platform is fixed to a rope that passes over a pulley attached to the ceiling, which allows the window-washer to raise himself and the platform. (a) To accelerate himself and the platform at a rate of 0.84 m/s2, with what force must he pull on the rope? (b) When his velocity reaches 2.3 m/s, he pulls so he and the platform go up at a constant speed. What force is he exerting on the rope?

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I thought since there was only one pulley the ratio of the force of the window washer pulling on the rope to the net force due to tension on him and the platform would be 1:1. Evidently this is not the case. Is the force applied by the washer on the rope halfed by the pulley. If so why is this the case?
 
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Think of it this way:

The tension in the rope pulls upward on the platform and on the hands of the man pulling on the rope. So, the tension pulls upward at two points, meaning you only need half the force you would need if the rope only pulled at one point.
 
So what would my FBD look like in this case?

I have T1 pulling up on the platform and Fg pulling down on the platform.

Now, what I had before was Fa pulling down on the other side of the pulley and T2 acting upwards canceling with T1. But this is not correct.

Could you explain how the forces would look on the other side of the pulley?
 
In your free body diagram, you have the rope pulling upward at two points, on the platform and the man.

This means that in your free body diagram, you will have two forces pulling upward, [itex]T_1[/itex] and [itex]T_2[/itex] with [itex]T_1=T_2[/itex].
 

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