-aux.02 Venn diagram sample space U and events A and B

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interpretation and calculations related to a Venn diagram involving sample space U and events A and B. Participants explore concepts such as the union and intersection of sets, probabilities, and the meaning of mutually exclusive events.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the shaded area in the Venn diagram as representing $(A\cup B)'$ and provides calculations for the number of elements in various sets.
  • Another participant confirms the shading is correct and agrees with the calculation of $n(A\cup B)$, but provides a formula for calculating $P(A\cap B)$.
  • A participant reiterates the formula for $P(A\cap B)$ and calculates it as $\frac{1}{16}$ based on the provided values.
  • Another participant corrects the probability calculation, stating that $\frac{2}{36}$ simplifies to $\frac{1}{18}$ instead of $\frac{1}{16}$.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the term "mutually exclusive" and associates it with the concept of overlap between sets.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the interpretation of the shaded area in the Venn diagram and the calculations for $n(A\cup B)$. However, there is disagreement regarding the correct simplification of the probability $P(A\cap B)$, with differing conclusions presented.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the understanding of mutually exclusive events and the implications of the calculations presented, particularly in relation to the definitions and assumptions about the sets involved.

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(a) the shaded hopefully shows $(A\cup B)'$

(b) (i) if $(A\cup B)'= 21$ and $n(U)=36$ then $n(A\cup B)=15$
but $n(A)+n(B)=17$ so $n(A\cap B) = 2$

(ii) $P(A\cap B)$ not sure but guessing $2:17$

(c) not sure what "mutually exclusive" means but presume it has to do with the overlap.

never done Venn Diagrams so this is all new ... did look at De Morgan's stuff tho..
 
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(a) Correct. Anything that is not in either A or B should be shaded, which is what you did.

(b)

(i) Correct.

(ii) I believe you want to use:

$$P(A\cap B)=\frac{n(A\cap B)}{n(U)}$$

(c) Two sets are mutually exclusive if:

$$A\cap B=\emptyset$$
 
MarkFL said:
(a)

(ii) I believe you want to use:

$$P(A\cap B)=\frac{n(A\cap B)}{n(U)}$$

so

$\displaystyle P(A\cap B)=\frac{n(A\cap B)}{n(U)}=

\frac{2}{36}=\frac{1}{16}$
 
karush said:
so

$\displaystyle P(A\cap B)=\frac{n(A\cap B)}{n(U)}=

\frac{2}{36}=\frac{1}{16}$

Not quite...

$$\frac{2}{36}=\frac{2}{2\cdot18}=\frac{1}{18}$$

:D
 

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