Double Dice Probability: Event A and B in Sample Space | Solved

So, given that the second number is even, you are more likely to get an even number on the first roll. That makes sense, right?Yes. So, given that the second number is even, you are more likely to get an even number on the first roll. That makes sense, right?Yes, that makes sense. This is because the event B, which is getting an even number on the second roll, is more likely to occur than the event A, which is getting an even number on the first roll. Therefore, if we know that B has occurred, the probability of A also occurring increases.
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Mark53
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Homework Statement



In a probability experiment, a fair die is rolled twice.
• If the first roll is odd, the outcomes are recorded as they appear.
• If the first roll is even, the recorded outcome for the second die is doubled. For example, if the first die was 2 and the second 4, the recorded outcome would be (2,8).

Let A be the event that the first recorded outcome is even and B be the event that the second is even.

(a) Write down the sample space S for this experiment.
(b) Express A, B and A∩B as subsets of S.
(c) Find P(A) and P(B).
(d) Given that the second recorded outcome is even, what is the probability that the first roll was also even?

The Attempt at a Solution


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I am not sure if the the numbers that I have used below are correct any help is much appreciated

a)
s={(2,4),(2,8),(2,12),(4,4),(4,8),(4,12),(6,4),(6,8),(6,12)}

b)

A={2,4,6}
B={4,8,12}
A∩B = {4}

c)

P(A)=1/2
P(B)=1/2

d)

P=1/4
 
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  • #2
Mark53 said:
s={(2,4),(2,8),(2,12),(4,4),(4,8),(4,12),(6,4),(6,8),(6,12)}
This set is far from complete. What happened to all of the cases where either the first or second die gave 1, 3, or 5?
Mark53 said:
A={2,4,6}
B={4,8,12}
A∩B = {4}
These are not subsets of your S.
 
  • #3
Orodruin said:
This set is far from complete. What happened to all of the cases where either the first or second die gave 1, 3, or 5?

These are not subsets of your S.

S={(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12),(1,1),(1,2),(1,3),(1,4),(1,5),(1,6),(3,1),(3,2),(3,3),(3,4),(3,5)(3,6),(5,1),(5,2),(5,3)(5,4),(5,5),(5,6)}

A={(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12)}

B={(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12),(1,2),(1,4),(1,6),(3,2),(3,4),(3,6),(5,2),(5,4),(5,6)}

A∩B = {(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12)}

P(A)=1/2
P(B)=3/4

d)
P=1/2

Would this be correct now
 
  • #4
Mark53 said:
S={(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12),(1,1),(1,2),(1,3),(1,4),(1,5),(1,6),(3,1),(3,2),(3,3),(3,4),(3,5)(3,6),(5,1),(5,2),(5,3)(5,4),(5,5),(5,6)}

A={(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12)}

B={(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12),(1,2),(1,4),(1,6),(3,2),(3,4),(3,6),(5,2),(5,4),(5,6)}

A∩B = {(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12)}

P(A)=1/2
P(B)=3/4

d)
P=1/2

Would this be correct now

a) - c) are correct. How did you calculate d)?
 
  • #5
PeroK said:
a) - c) are correct. How did you calculate d)?
I used A∩B how should I be calculating it?
 
  • #6
Mark53 said:
I used A∩B how should I be calculating it?

##P(A \cap B)## is the probability that both are even. The probability that the first is even given that you know the second is even is something else. Can you see that?
 
  • #7
PeroK said:
##P(A \cap B)## is the probability that both are even. The probability that the first is even given that you know the second is even is something else. Can you see that?
Does that mean that it is 1/4 I am still unsure
 
  • #9
PeroK said:
You're not going to learn just by guessing a number. Have you heard the term "conditional probability" or seen the term ##P(A|B)##?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditional_probability
I forgot about that so that means that

##P(A|B)##=(1/2)/(3/4) = 2/3
 
  • #10
Mark53 said:
I forgot about that so that means that

##P(A|B)##=(1/2)/(3/4) = 2/3

Yes.
 

1. What is the sample space in double dice probability?

The sample space in double dice probability refers to all the possible outcomes of rolling two dice. It includes all the combinations of numbers that can appear on the two dice, such as 1 & 1, 1 & 2, 2 & 1, etc.

2. What is the difference between events A and B in double dice probability?

Event A and B refer to two different outcomes that can occur when rolling two dice. Event A could be one specific outcome, such as rolling a 4 on one of the dice, while event B could be another specific outcome, such as rolling a 6 on the other dice. They are independent of each other and can occur simultaneously.

3. How do you calculate the probability of event A and B occurring together?

To calculate the probability of event A and B occurring together, you need to multiply the individual probabilities of each event. For example, if the probability of event A is 1/6 and the probability of event B is also 1/6, then the probability of both events occurring together is 1/6 * 1/6 = 1/36.

4. What is the formula for calculating the probability of event A or B occurring?

The formula for calculating the probability of event A or B occurring is P(A or B) = P(A) + P(B) - P(A and B). This takes into account the possibility of both events occurring together, so it is subtracted from the sum of the individual probabilities to avoid counting it twice.

5. Can you give an example of using double dice probability to solve a problem?

Sure! Let's say we are rolling two dice and we want to know the probability of getting a sum of 8 or higher. First, we calculate the probability of getting an 8, 9, 10, 11, or 12 by adding the probabilities of each individual outcome (5/36 + 4/36 + 3/36 + 2/36 + 1/36 = 15/36). Then, we subtract the probability of getting an 8 and a 9 together (1/36) since we already counted that once in our calculation. This gives us a final probability of 14/36 or about 38.89%.

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