Double Dice Probability: Event A and B in Sample Space | Solved

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The problem involves a probability experiment where a fair die is rolled twice, with specific rules for recording outcomes based on the first roll. The events of interest are defined as A (the first recorded outcome is even) and B (the second recorded outcome is even). Participants are tasked with determining the sample space, subsets for events A and B, and calculating probabilities.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the completeness of the sample space and the definitions of events A and B. There are attempts to clarify the calculations for probabilities and the interpretation of conditional probability.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the accuracy of the sample space and the definitions of events. Some guidance on conditional probability has been provided, and there is a recognition of the need to differentiate between joint and conditional probabilities.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the calculations and the definitions of events, indicating a need for clarification on the rules governing the outcomes based on the first die roll.

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Homework Statement



In a probability experiment, a fair die is rolled twice.
• If the first roll is odd, the outcomes are recorded as they appear.
• If the first roll is even, the recorded outcome for the second die is doubled. For example, if the first die was 2 and the second 4, the recorded outcome would be (2,8).

Let A be the event that the first recorded outcome is even and B be the event that the second is even.

(a) Write down the sample space S for this experiment.
(b) Express A, B and A∩B as subsets of S.
(c) Find P(A) and P(B).
(d) Given that the second recorded outcome is even, what is the probability that the first roll was also even?

The Attempt at a Solution


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I am not sure if the the numbers that I have used below are correct any help is much appreciated

a)
s={(2,4),(2,8),(2,12),(4,4),(4,8),(4,12),(6,4),(6,8),(6,12)}

b)

A={2,4,6}
B={4,8,12}
A∩B = {4}

c)

P(A)=1/2
P(B)=1/2

d)

P=1/4
 
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Mark53 said:
s={(2,4),(2,8),(2,12),(4,4),(4,8),(4,12),(6,4),(6,8),(6,12)}
This set is far from complete. What happened to all of the cases where either the first or second die gave 1, 3, or 5?
Mark53 said:
A={2,4,6}
B={4,8,12}
A∩B = {4}
These are not subsets of your S.
 
Orodruin said:
This set is far from complete. What happened to all of the cases where either the first or second die gave 1, 3, or 5?

These are not subsets of your S.

S={(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12),(1,1),(1,2),(1,3),(1,4),(1,5),(1,6),(3,1),(3,2),(3,3),(3,4),(3,5)(3,6),(5,1),(5,2),(5,3)(5,4),(5,5),(5,6)}

A={(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12)}

B={(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12),(1,2),(1,4),(1,6),(3,2),(3,4),(3,6),(5,2),(5,4),(5,6)}

A∩B = {(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12)}

P(A)=1/2
P(B)=3/4

d)
P=1/2

Would this be correct now
 
Mark53 said:
S={(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12),(1,1),(1,2),(1,3),(1,4),(1,5),(1,6),(3,1),(3,2),(3,3),(3,4),(3,5)(3,6),(5,1),(5,2),(5,3)(5,4),(5,5),(5,6)}

A={(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12)}

B={(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12),(1,2),(1,4),(1,6),(3,2),(3,4),(3,6),(5,2),(5,4),(5,6)}

A∩B = {(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12)}

P(A)=1/2
P(B)=3/4

d)
P=1/2

Would this be correct now

a) - c) are correct. How did you calculate d)?
 
PeroK said:
a) - c) are correct. How did you calculate d)?
I used A∩B how should I be calculating it?
 
Mark53 said:
I used A∩B how should I be calculating it?

##P(A \cap B)## is the probability that both are even. The probability that the first is even given that you know the second is even is something else. Can you see that?
 
PeroK said:
##P(A \cap B)## is the probability that both are even. The probability that the first is even given that you know the second is even is something else. Can you see that?
Does that mean that it is 1/4 I am still unsure
 
PeroK said:
You're not going to learn just by guessing a number. Have you heard the term "conditional probability" or seen the term ##P(A|B)##?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditional_probability
I forgot about that so that means that

##P(A|B)##=(1/2)/(3/4) = 2/3
 
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Mark53 said:
I forgot about that so that means that

##P(A|B)##=(1/2)/(3/4) = 2/3

Yes.
 

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