Average wavelength for blackbody radiation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the average wavelength of blackbody radiation in relation to its maximum wavelength, particularly questioning whether the average wavelength is consistently 1.84 times the maximum wavelength across all temperatures.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims that the average wavelength for blackbody radiation is 1.84 times the maximum wavelength, which is defined as .29/Temperature.
  • Another participant challenges the premise by stating that there is no "maximum" wavelength, referencing external sources to support this view.
  • A participant clarifies that the maximum wavelength corresponds to the peak emission intensity and expresses a desire to calculate the average wavelength based on the area under the intensity graph.
  • One participant provides a formula derived from Planck's Law to calculate the average wavelength, indicating the mathematical approach to finding it.
  • A later reply seeks confirmation on whether the average wavelength is indeed 1.84 times the maximum for all temperatures, referencing a quote that suggests a different factor related to frequency.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus, as there are competing views regarding the existence of a maximum wavelength and the relationship between average and maximum wavelengths.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes references to external sources for clarification, and there are unresolved mathematical steps related to the calculation of the average wavelength.

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The maximum wavelength for blackboby radiation is .29/Temperature. Is the average wavelength 1.84 times the maximum for all temperatures?
 
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As shown in both ref., the wavelength where the emission intensity is maximum is .29/T. But I want to know the avg wavelength at that temperatue. So I think the wavelength where the area under the intensity ghaph is equal on both sides would be the average, but I do not know how to calculate it from gragh equation. My estimate working back from other calculations was 1.84 times the max wavelength.
 
You can calculate the following:

Use Planck's Law for the blackbody radiation power as a function of T and λ

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck's_law

u(T,λ) = [2hc25]/[e(hc/λkT) - 1]

The average wavelength is then given by:

λavg = ∫λ u(T,λ) dλ / ∫ u(T,λ) dλ

where both integrals are from 0 to ∞. The appendix of the above wiki solves the important integrals.

Bob S
 
Do you know if the average is 1.84 the maximum for all temperatures? I can not do the math. The following quote from the source may relate: This function peaks for hc = 4.97λkT, a factor of 1.76 shorter in wavelength (higher in frequency) than the frequency peak. Thanks jimj
 

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