Band gaps between metals and insulators

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The discussion revolves around the properties of metals and insulators, specifically focusing on the factors that contribute to the differences in their band gaps. Participants explore concepts from solid state physics, including electron behavior, band theory, and the implications of atomic structure on electronic properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the type of atom influences the band gap, with larger nuclei or fewer valence electrons tending to correlate with metallic properties.
  • One participant discusses the screening effect of inner electrons and its impact on the binding of outer electrons, proposing that this affects the energy gap between bands.
  • Another participant explains that the periodic Coulombic potential in a crystal lattice causes electron wavefunctions to split into bands, with the band gap representing the energy difference between these bands.
  • There is a contention regarding the relationship between the energy gap and electron wavefunctions, with some arguing that the gap is related to the energy required to extract an electron from the valence band, while others assert that wavefunctions play a role in band structure calculations.
  • A participant introduces a hypothetical scenario involving a two-dimensional square lattice of divalent atoms and questions whether it would be classified as a metal, insulator, or semiconductor based on its electronic structure.
  • Another participant posits that the occupancy of electron states in the primitive cell of the lattice determines whether a material behaves as a metal or an insulator, suggesting that an even number of electrons leads to insulating behavior.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the factors that determine band gaps in metals and insulators. The discussion remains unresolved, with differing interpretations of the role of atomic structure, electron occupancy, and wavefunctions in defining these properties.

Contextual Notes

Some participants acknowledge a lack of clarity in their understanding of certain concepts, such as the relationship between wavefunctions and band gaps, indicating potential gaps in knowledge or assumptions that are not fully articulated.

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This seems like almost too much of an elementary question, but what properties of metals / insulators cause their bandgaps to differ?
 
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Hi there,

I am not an expert in solid state physics, and have little souvenirs of my classes, but I see two answer to your question: 1. very simply the type of atom will make the difference.

2. I guess that was to simple of an answer. Let's try something more detailed (please bare with me and correct me if I am wrong), electrons orbit next to a nucleus. From the Coulomb interactions, electrons are electrically attracted by the protons of the nucleus. But (and this is where it gets interesting), electrons repulse each other from the atoms. Therefore, the electrons on the valence band have a "screening" effect created by the electrons on inner shell, which binds them more weakly to the atom. Depending on this screening effect, an electron will get closer (energy wise) to the conduction band.

Hope this was right. Cheers
 
Thanks for the reply. I am familiar with the screening effect of inner electrons and effective nuclear charge experienced by the outer electrons as a result. So the difference between a metal and an insulator would be that a metal atoms outer electrons are bound more weakly than those of an insulator due to screening effects. This makes sense but i can't seem to move this explanation into a proper quantum mechanical argument of why the gap between the two bands of allowed states is present in insulators and not in metals.
 
Hi there,

I don't think I understand your problem quite well. What is:
the gap between the two bands of allowed states

Cheers
 
The periodic coulombic potential from the regular array of atoms in a crystal lattice causes the electron wavefunctions to split into two 'bands' of allowed energy states. The bands are just a range of energies where the density of states is large and the bandgap is the energy difference between these two bands of allowed energies.
I don't know how much quantum mechanics knowledge to assume in explaining it and i am far from an expert (im an undergrad) so i appologise if i can't communicate it very well.
Thanks for the continued interst :)
 
Hi there,

For me, it has been a long time that I have reviewed solid state physics, but I believe you are talking about two different things.

The gap between the valence band and the conduction band has (to my knowledge) nothing to do with the wavefunctions of electrons. The energy gap simply explains the energy necessary to extract an electron from the valence band. The electron wavefunction explains behaviour of electrons as a wave-like particle.

Cheers
 
fatra2 said:
Hi there,

For me, it has been a long time that I have reviewed solid state physics, but I believe you are talking about two different things.

The gap between the valence band and the conduction band has (to my knowledge) nothing to do with the wavefunctions of electrons. The energy gap simply explains the energy necessary to extract an electron from the valence band. The electron wavefunction explains behaviour of electrons as a wave-like particle.

Cheers

Actually, the wavefunction does affect the band structure. In band structure calculation, such overlap of wavefuction will produce these band-structure calculations.

One can also see this in, say, the Bloch wavefuction with periodic boundary conditions. That alone is sufficient to show the formation of "gaps" in the bands.

Zz.
 
I have a new q,perhaps it may solve the problem,
suppose the electronic sturcture of a solid that represents a two dimensional square lattice of divalent atoms can be discribed using nearly free electronmodel withaweak potentialsuchthat U<<h^2/4M(Pi^2)*(Pi/a)^2
*=multiply
^2=square
where a=lattice parameter
is this solid a metal, an insulator or a semi conductor? why?
 
Im not sure what hafsa is saying exactly, but in response to ZzapperZs reply the bloch theorem just shows us that a periodic potential causes the separation of energy levels into bands. But a metal is a crystal structure with a periodic potential so why does band theory say that there is not energy gap in a metal?
 
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joel.martens said:
Im not sure what hafsa is saying exactly, but in response to ZzapperZs reply the bloch theorem just shows us that a periodic potential causes the separation of energy levels into bands. But a metal is a crystal structure with a periodic potential so why does band theory say that there is not energy gap in a metal?

Remember, I was trying to illustrate that these bands, and the formation of gaps, can be derived using the wavefunction.

Whether it is a metal or not depends on the available charge density within each band, i.e. is the band fully occupied, or if it isn't. This too depends on how the valence band wavefunction overlaps. In solid state physics, we often use the tight-binding band structure to calculate such overlaps.

So yes, it DOES depend intrinsically on the wavefunction. It doesn't mean that we always use it all the time or that it is solvable, but it is always the underlying description.

Zz.
 
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joel.martens said:
This seems like almost too much of an elementary question, but what properties of metals / insulators cause their bandgaps to differ?
according to the periodic chart atoms with larger nuclei or with fewer valence electrons tend to be metals. also metals tend to be much denser.
 
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hi granpa,
what about my question?if elements valence shell contains 2electrons then?
 
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I believe i have got to the bottom of this. It is about how many electrons there are in the primitive cell of the lattice. If there is an even number (due to the two spins an electron can have) then there are no empty states to allow electron movement and we have an insulator. If there is an odd number then there is an empty state that facilitates electron movement and we have a metal. This excludes the more complicated case of semimetals. I believe this is what ZzapperZ was referring to when he discussed band occupancy.
 

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