Banked Curve Safety Speed Problem

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The discussion centers on calculating the safe speed range for a car navigating a banked curve with a radius of 68m, designed for a speed of 85km/h, and a static friction coefficient of 0.30 on wet pavement. The user successfully determined the banking angle (theta) to be 39.9 degrees but struggles to find the frictional force and the overall speed range. Key equations involving normal force and friction are referenced, indicating that friction acts differently depending on whether the car is moving too slowly or too quickly. The conversation emphasizes the need to incorporate friction into the equations to solve for the maximum and minimum safe speeds. The thread highlights the complexities of balancing forces on a banked curve.
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Homework Statement


A curve of radius 68m is banked for a design speed of 85km/h. If the coefficient of static friction is 0.30 (wet pavement), at what range of speeds can a car safely make the curve?


Homework Equations



1) FNsin(theta) = m*v2/r
2) FNcos(theta) - mg = 0
3) tan(theta) = v2/rg



The Attempt at a Solution



I used the third equation to find (theta) which is 39.9o
but I can't find out how to find Ffr or the range of velocity
I understand that when the car goes slow the frictional force faces up the banked curve and when it goes fast the friction goes down the banked curve but I can't figure out how to solve the question.
 
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Hi hanlon! :smile:

(have a theta: θ and a mu: µ :wink:)
hanlon said:
1) FNsin(theta) = m*v2/r
2) FNcos(theta) - mg = 0
3) tan(theta) = v2/rg

but I can't find out how to find Ffr or the range of velocity
I understand that when the car goes slow the frictional force faces up the banked curve and when it goes fast the friction goes down the banked curve but I can't figure out how to solve the question.

When the car is at its fastest safe speed, the friction force will be µsFN, = 0.3FN.

So rewrite 1) and 2) to include the friction …

what do you get? :smile:
 
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