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The discussion centers on the comparison of a barrel rolling without slipping versus one that slips down an inclined plane. It is established that the barrel that slips reaches the bottom faster than the one that rolls without slipping. The mathematical derivation shows that for rolling without slipping, the final velocity is V=√(4/3)gh, while for slipping, the final velocity is V=√(2gh). This confirms that the slipping barrel has a higher velocity at the bottom of the incline.

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Hi guys,

I'm wondering if I roll a barrel which rolls without slipping down an inclined plane vs. a barrel which only slips down the plane - who will get down faster and how can I show it mathematically ?


Thanks
 
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Start by drawing free body diagrams for each situation. Then you can calculate the acceleration.
 
Do what Doc Al have told you, the final result is that the barrel that slips down falls faster than the one that rolls.
 
For rolling without slip:
mgh=0.5Iω + 0.5mV^2, I=0.5MR^2 ->
mgh=0.25mR^2 * (V/R)^2 +0.5MV^2
gh=0.25V^2 + 0.5V^2 ->
V=√4/3 gh

For slip only:
mgh=0.5mV^2 ->
V=√2gh

and so the Velocity at the bottom of the inclined plane is higher for slip only. is that correct?
 
dislect said:
For rolling without slip:
mgh=0.5Iω + 0.5mV^2, I=0.5MR^2 ->
mgh=0.25mR^2 * (V/R)^2 +0.5MV^2
gh=0.25V^2 + 0.5V^2 ->
V=√4/3 gh

For slip only:
mgh=0.5mV^2 ->
V=√2gh

and so the Velocity at the bottom of the inclined plane is higher for slip only. is that correct?
That's correct. (I see you modeled the barrel as a solid cylinder, which is OK.)
 
Thank you for the help! much appreciated
 
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