Basic forces problem: which has a higher acceleration?

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

In the discussion, the problem compares two scenarios involving a block 'm' experiencing acceleration under different forces. In case 1, a 10kg mass is hanging and falling, while in case 2, a hand applies a constant downward force. The calculations reveal that both cases exert a force of 98N, but the total mass being accelerated differs: case 1 accelerates 11kg (10kg + m) and case 2 accelerates only 1kg (m). Consequently, case 2 exhibits a higher acceleration due to the lower total mass, confirming the principle that acceleration increases as mass decreases when force remains constant.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Newton's Second Law (F=ma)
  • Basic knowledge of forces and mass
  • Familiarity with concepts of acceleration and gravity
  • Ability to analyze free body diagrams
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the implications of Newton's Second Law in different scenarios
  • Explore free body diagram techniques for visualizing forces
  • Learn about the law of inertia and its applications in physics
  • Investigate the effects of varying mass on acceleration in practical experiments
USEFUL FOR

Students studying physics, educators teaching mechanics, and anyone interested in understanding the principles of forces and acceleration in real-world applications.

JSmithDawg
Messages
9
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


In which situation does block m experience a larger acceleration? In case 1, the 10kg mass is hanging from a rope and falling. In case 2, a hand is providing a constant downward force. Assume the rope is massless.
upload_2014-12-17_16-3-36.png


Homework Equations


F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


The force applied to m in case 1 is 98N. Gravity is acting on both 'm' and 10kg, but since 'm' is on top of a table (which provides a normal force), it's going to have no effect on the system's acceleration. Knowing F=ma, F=10kg(9.8 m/s^2), F=98N. Thus, the force in case 1 is equal to the force in case 2. However, the online quiz I did told me that case 2 has the higher acceleration. How is this possible if the downward force is the same in both situations?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
What's the total mass being accelerated in each case?
 
You could try drawing "the hand of gravity" in case 1.
 
The total mass being accelerated for case one is 10kg+m, and for case two it's m. But isn't the 'm' insignificant when looking at how much force is applied to each system? Wait, but it might be significant when determining acceleration. F=ma, so 98N=11kg(a) vs. 98N = 1kg(a). That makes sense that case two will accelerate faster! Thank you for hinting at the law of inertia!
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 38 ·
2
Replies
38
Views
5K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
6
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
1K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
1K
  • · Replies 33 ·
2
Replies
33
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K